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To: Disestablishmentarian
FISA came out in the 1970's, before GWB and the U.S.A.Patriot Act. The surveillance abuses have been going on for decades.

The Church Committee revealed wanton snooping, so FISA was crafted to sham the public that the snooping would be curtailed and regulated under court supervision.

FISA was actually intended to do the opposite, enable wanton snooping and sham the public. Nothing the government does is for the purpose given.

FISA will be modified in the wake of the election meddling by the US government. The modifications will further enable malfeasance.

Reference: United States v. United States Dist. Ct., 407 U.S. 297 (1972) (Keith Case)
40 years ago, Church Committee investigated Americans spying on Americans (2015)

The Church Committee's investigations also led to passage of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) in 1978. The FISA court was originally designed to guard executive branch surveillance programs from the public while ensuring the other branches of government could oversee activities.

195 posted on 12/31/2019 3:09:42 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Nasty future for us if modified FISA allowed to stand.

No wonder Senator Lee would vote (today) to Kill it.


198 posted on 12/31/2019 3:15:43 PM PST by RitaOK (Viva Christo Rey! Public skules&Academia assure more MRxists coming. Infinitum.)
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To: Cboldt
FISA came out in the 1970's, before GWB and the U.S.A.Patriot Act. The surveillance abuses have been going on for decades.

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Oops.

Right you are, Cboldt. Thanks for pointing out my error.

FYI, you forced me to locate the book I remembered incorrectly ("Constitutional Peril" by Bruce Fein) to find out what it really said.

HERE IS WHAT THE BOOK ACTUALLY SAID: "In the aftermath of 911, President Bush instructed the NSA to intercept emails and phone calls of American citizens on American soil in direct criminal contravention of FISA"--This was the "So-called Terrorist Surveillance Program (TSP)".

In December 2005 a leak revealed existence of this program; and, by January 2007 the administration reverted to the practice of using the FISA process to obtain warrants.

BTW, the book points out that FISA violations are "Criminal" according to the statute. Fein was arguing Bush should be impeached for violating it along with some other issues arising generally from his over-aggressive interpretation of the Authorization of the Use of Military Force (AUMF).

232 posted on 12/31/2019 5:05:00 PM PST by Disestablishmentarian
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