Posted on 12/24/2019 6:37:09 PM PST by ConservativeMind
Yup. It changes constantly
On HAT, the amounts are quite small for using steroids—far less than years ago. As for the two vitamins, the dose amounts used are not unusual. So I don’t see a concern with HAT at all.
I do agree that experience over time is a benefit, but that has meant nothing for red meat, sodium, carbs, fat, and such when the studies have been wrong for many decades. Doctors have been telling us wrong stuff from seemingly legitimate studies for most of our lives.
On top of that, no doctor can study everything in their field to keep up on even what useful stuff came out last year. Continuing education credits don’t begin to touch it all (and I have had a Medscape account since 2003 and get all the emails).
In the end, doctors are human and we can all help them help us.
Take zinc with the D as well- Also- Sambucol is supposed to be even more powerful than tamiflu-
They used to have a zinc nasal swab that knocked flus out dead- the zinc in the nose attacked the actual virus head on- but it was later found zinc in noses could cause permanent loss of smell- so they discontinued it-
Are you condoning all the bad work of the doctors I mentioned? Really?
Sanity-checking is healthy and has nothing to do with “anecdotal anything.”
Your post addresses nothing but a false flag.
This is the comment I was responding to:
Doctors are programmed to waste money on useless approaches because they are trained this way. We have to be stay on top of them BECAUSE TOO MANY DO NOT PRACTICE IN PRACTICAL WAYS. These doctors are on autopilot and never get anyone who challenges THEIR STUPIDITY.
Challenge their stupidity and save your lived ones anguish and money.
You will have to excuse me I was up all night last night taking care of a slew of equally grateful patients. I get to sleep tonight but my daughter is working in the ICU all night on Christmas Eve and I’m sure receiving some of the same attitude. It gets old real fast
I think highly of you, Mom MD.
I am not attacking you or doctors. I am attacking the act of being completely illogical. It is that act, which I call “stupidity,” that must be countered. I even do stupid things at work, but I sometimes have someone catch me, too.
It is wrong, in my humble opinion, to think doctors cannot err—especially when it happens time and time again on simple things which I illustrated in my post.
My father suffered septic shock after pneumonia. The doctor offered the Xigris treatment, saying that the bleeding risk was significant but that he would likely die otherwise. We took the chance and he pulled through. About a year later I read that the drug had been pulled from the market. It wasn’t the magic bullet for everyone but it saved my dad. I still wonder if the high cost and politics (ACA) are what led to its discontinuance rather than the side effect risks.
[[You completely miss the point]]
No i don’t-
[[None-the-less, you and I both know doctors are not gods. They are humans with plenty of human failings.]]
none-the-less you and i both know doctors are a hell of a lot smarter and more educated than you or i, and almost all self professed naturalists-
[[They are humans with plenty of human failings.]]
Their training makes them FAR FAR less prone to failing than some health ‘gurus’ who have never been to college, or the myriad of anecdotal cases around the world that claim they have ‘cured’ something by doing ‘so and so’
[[Your post addresses nothing but a false flag.]]
Sorry- My post addresses the false notion that doctors are so prone to error they can’t be trusted, and that one should put their trust in unproven anecdotal experiences instead-
My post had absolutely nothing to do with anything you posted- I was following up on what tobasco said- and everything i stated is valid- Anecdotal evidences are not only unscientific, but they are dangerous- as proven by the myriad of folks that stop taking life saving things like chemo because someone somewhere said they cured their cancer by ‘going green’ or some such nonsense-
to your point- NO doctors aren’t infallible, but MOST are a hell of a lot more educated than you or i or any number of self professed health gurus or alternative medicine ‘experts’ that have no actual factual scientific studies, clinical trials to back up what they are saying-
Just took my 20 mg prednisone
I’m all in
No. Xigris was not the magic bullet it initially appeared to be. Your dad was lucky and got excellent care with the best we had to offer at the time. Xigris or any other drug is just one piece of the puzzle. Medicine is constantly evolving and all we can do is the best we can do. I hope you have many good years with your dad.
A cardiologist in Napierville Illinois saved me from a slow low energy death last April 2018
Dr Tony DeMartini
Edward Heart Institute
One of the top three Chronic Total Occlusion stents experts in the world whereby he uses tiny wires from Japan to use collateral arteries to get behind blockage and get a wire through it and open it up slowly and double stent
God created secondary arteries the heart makes to get around black age some you can barely see
3.5 inch stent and ventricle muscle now awakened that had been dormant for two decades
My ejection fraction went from 21 which means death is maybe one rest stop away to 65 which is like your 20s
Yeah I’ll trust my docs
Them I misunderstood your post and apologize. Of course we can err that’s why we practice in teams with other healthcare professionals and we hopefully catch each other’s errors. What I resent is the attitude (not saying it is yours) that we are all money grubbing evil idiots out to hurt people. I have encountered it both on this board and in practice and it gets old - particularly when one is old and sleep deprived as I am tonight. Merry Christmas!
Thank you for your kind words but he passed peacefully in 2012. Nonetheless, we had another four years with him and he saw grand kids grow and I got back to church after Jesus had my attention with what I considered a miracle.
“You may safe a life a doctor couldn’t.”
In the same vein, we should think long and hard about whether we want to support the idea of getting prescription medicine from Canada to save a few dollars. I know that most people will do it but, think about the longer term cost issues.
Had this been accepted practice back in the ‘40’s, we likely would not have a polio vaccine or many of the other vaccines we take for granted. Research and Development is highly costly especially when one considers that the vast majority of medical research projects are unsuccessful but still must be funded.
If we buy most of our medicine from outside the U.S., we will remove the monetary incentive for researchers to spend their time and resources ($) to develop new cures for things like AIDS, cancer, heart problems, circulation disorders, etc.
What’s more important? Saving a few bucks or developing a cure for the fatal disease you’ll contract ten years from now?
One may find information regarding sepsis help on the Earthclinic.com website.
As an anti-inflammatory, one may consider to use CoQ10 rather than prednisone steroid.
How do you take the hydrocortisone?
Agree
There is a company called Cytosorbents (CTSO) which has developed a filter which works in-line with dialysis equipment to filter blood. Currently it is approved in much of Europe for use in open heart procedures to eliminate Cytokine storm syndrome. I believe there are some ongoing US Military trials as well. Ultimately it is hopefully this same filter will be successful in treating septic as well. Seems to be a good product, just not sure the current management team is up to the challenges to get this through the FDA and into the USA market.
UNIVERSAL SKEPTICISM
Practice it. Embrace it.
Doubt all premises.
Doubt your Public School education.
There are no altruists. Everybody does stuff for the money because their survival is first.
Dead Doctors do not lie.
Your health is the ONLY thing you got.
Prevention first always.
Read. Doubt. Ask. Do.
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