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To: BroJoeK
>>Kalamata wrote: "That is one of the nicest things a hard-left progressive has ever said about me, Joey."
>>BroJoeK wrote: "As usual, Kalamata can't post without lying about something."

Left-wing Lincoln-worshiper BroJoeK cannot deny that he is a devout progressive, because his written words betray him. He can only try to cover up his Leftism with verbosity, or keep quiet, the latter of which is impracticable for a cultist.

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>>Kalamata wrote: "Professor James Randall was also guilty of committing an act of 'history,' as follows:... ...[Randall, James G., "Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln." D. Appleton & Company, 1926, pp.52-53] "
>> BroJoeK wrote: "Randall was of the Revisionist School, effectively anti-Lincoln: claiming to be "neutral" he called the war "unnecessary" and said it, "could have been avoided, supposing of course that something more of statesmanship, moderation, and understanding, and something less of professional patrioteering, slogan-making, face-saving, political clamoring, and propaganda, had existed on both sides"

Historian James Randall, who was most assuredly PRO-Lincoln, is probably most famous for this quote:

"If Lincoln was a dictator, it must be admitted that he was a benevolent dictator."

[James G. Randall, "Constitutional Problems Under Lincoln." D. Appleton & Company, 1926, p.47]

Only a rabid cult-follower would claim that a psychotic lunatic, like Lincoln, who was responsible for as many as a million deaths, and who intentionally starved to death countless women, children and old men in the dead of winter, to be "benevolent." Therefore, Randall was a devout Lincolinte – NO DOUBT!

The only reasonable and honest way to characterize Lincoln is, he was pre-Hitler, pre-Stalin, or pre-Mao, or all three. Big-government, central-planning Marxists, like BroJoeK, absolutely cherish Lincoln's memory, since he, more than anyone, destroyed the concept of a free government, and that is not only my opinion:

"If in the opinion of the people the distribution or modification of the constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this in one instance may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." [George Washington, "Farewell Address." 1796]

Herr Lincoln was the consummate usurper and destroyer, and BroJoeK is NOT a friend to a Free Republic.

Mr. Kalamata

827 posted on 01/19/2020 9:02:16 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
"If Lincoln was a dictator, it must be admitted that he was a benevolent dictator."

I suppose it depends on which side of the Dictator you were on when he was doing his dictatoring.

I just ran across bit from Wikipedia regarding Septimus Winner. I was looking up information on the song he wrote "Listen to the Mockingbird."

In 1862, Winner was court-martialed and briefly jailed, accused of treason, because he wrote and published a song entitled "Give Us Back Our Old Commander: Little Mac, the People's Pride". It concerned General George B. McClellan, whom President Abraham Lincoln had just fired from the command of the Army of the Potomac.[6] McClellan was a popular man, and his supporters bought more than 80,000 copies of the song in its first two days of publication.[citation needed] He was released from arrest after promising to destroy all of the remaining copies.

Jailed and accused of treason because he liked McClellan?

What was the treason? I think the treason was doing or saying anything that pissed off Lincoln.

845 posted on 01/20/2020 10:54:39 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: Kalamata; BroJoeK
Hey Kalamata. I found another Marxist, crony capitalist, who believed the Union was perpetual!

But I can anticipate no greater calamity for the country than a dissolution of the Union. It would be an accumulation of all the evils we complain of, and I am willing to sacrifice everything but honor for its preservation. I hope, therefore,that all constitutional means will be exhausted before there is a resort to force. Secession is nothing but revolution. The framers of our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for “perpetual union,” so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution, or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession.

Robert E. Lee letter to his son George Washington Custis Lee January 23, 1861.

My god who would have thought that Lee was a big-government, central-planning Marxist, who despises the original Constitution. These damned Marxist are everywhere.

857 posted on 01/20/2020 4:28:44 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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