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To: DiogenesLamp

The North didn’t launch a war, and you know that. The rebels in the southern states started a war by firing the first shot at an American fort.

Now you should also know that the reason the slavocracy rebelled is because of slavery. They mention slavery more than any other reason in both their declarations and the statements they made at their rebel conventions.


815 posted on 01/19/2020 3:21:03 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran
The rebels in the southern states started a war by firing the first shot at an American fort.

Because the fort informed them that it would be firing upon them when those ships arrived. The fort was offered a truce, but the Fort declined.

Look, virtually all of Lincoln's cabinet told him his plan would start a war. The Commander of the Fort, Major Anderson, wrote that this plan was going to start a war.

Lincoln did in fact start the war by ordering those warships into Charleston. The war started April 5th, not April 11th, and Lincoln started it.

Now you should also know that the reason the slavocracy rebelled is because of slavery.

I have maintained all along that people wanting independence don't have to justify why they wish to exercise the right to independence. It is the people who attack them that has to justify why they are attacking people who just want out from under their control.

Only the Union's reasons for launching that war matter. And their reason was NOT slavery.

819 posted on 01/19/2020 4:04:27 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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To: OIFVeteran; DiogenesLamp; jeffersondem; wardaddy; central_va

OIFVeteran wrote: “The North didn’t launch a war, and you know that. The rebels in the southern states started a war by firing the first shot at an American fort.”

Don’t let this progressive Lincoln-cultist get away with rewriting history. Both the Buchanan and Lincoln administrations committed acts of war before the first shot was fired at Fort Sumter.

Mr. Kalamata


830 posted on 01/19/2020 9:27:12 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: OIFVeteran; DoodleDawg; eartick; Kalamata; Who is John Galt?; DiogenesLamp; central_va; ...

“The rebels in the southern states started a war by firing the first shot at an American fort.”

That is an interesting comment. But what does “firing the first shot” have to do with who “started” a war?


853 posted on 01/20/2020 3:18:24 PM PST by jeffersondem
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