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To: OIFVeteran
>>OIFVeteran wrote: "You do understand there’s a difference in being racist and believing in slavery, right?"

Yes.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: "If you read what was written at the time their were three primary views on racism(or equality between the races) and slavery. Let me list them from least moral or bad to most moral or good. (I mean if you think slavery is wrong that is):

Yes, I think slavery is wrong. Jesus teaches the opposite:

"Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted." -- Mat 23:10-12 KJV

Now, on to the list.

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>>OIFVeteran playing moral-equivalency:

1) Racist(against equality between the races) and pro-slavery (Jefferson Davis, leaders of the confederacy)

2) Racist and anti-slavery.(Lincoln and most republicans)

3) anti-racist(believed in total equality) and anti-slavery. (radical abolitionist and the smallest of the groups, which is sad because it was the most correct moral position)

My response:

1, 2, 3) I am unconvinced Lincoln was against slavery. His hero, Henry Clay, was a slaver-master; and both despised abolitionists. Both were, after all, blue-blooded, crony-capitalist politicians; and we all know how to tell when a politician is lying. Lincoln also married the daughter of a slave-holder.

I personally judge a man by his works, not his words. I also know that the Lord abhors violence, as do I, and Lincoln was one of the most violent in his heart that ever lived. Therefore, if I were to honor Lincoln, I believe I would be dishonoring God.

Mr. Kalamata

751 posted on 01/16/2020 5:53:57 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata

God abhors violence? You have made many ridiculous claims on this thread but that ones the topper. What bible are you reading?

15 and the men of Judah raised the battle cry. At the sound of their battle cry, God routed Jeroboam and all Israel before Abijah and Judah. 16 The Israelites fled before Judah, and God delivered them into their hands. 17 Abijah and his troops inflicted heavy losses on them, so that there were five hundred thousand casualties among Israel’s able men. 18 The Israelites were subdued on that occasion, and the people of Judah were victorious because they relied on the Lord, the God of their ancestors.
2 Chronicles 13:15-18

29 At midnight the Lord struck down all the firstborn in Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh, who sat on the throne, to the firstborn of the prisoner, who was in the dungeon, and the firstborn of all the livestock as well.
Exodus 12:29

When Sihon and all his army came out to meet us in battle at Jahaz, 33 the Lord our God delivered him over to us and we struck him down, together with his sons and his whole army. 34 At that time we took all his towns and completely destroyed[a] them—men, women and children. We left no survivors. 35 But the livestock and the plunder from the towns we had captured we carried off for ourselves.
Deuteronomy 2:32-35

But God struck down some of the inhabitants of Beth Shemesh, putting seventy[a] of them to death because they looked into the ark of the Lord. The people mourned because of the heavy blow the Lord had dealt them.
1 Samuel 6:19

That’s just a small sampling I could go on and on. Your reading comprehension really does suck.


752 posted on 01/16/2020 7:44:32 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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