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To: OIFVeteran

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Alexander Hamilton was at the New York constitutional ratification convention. As you now they wanted to adopt ratify the constitution but conditionally. The condition being that Amendments would be adopted after ratification, if these amendments weren’t added with a specified time then New York’s ratification would become null and void. Alexander Hamilton wrote to James Madison about this. This is Madison’s response. From James Madison to Alexander Hamilton. N. York Sunday Evening [20 July 1788]

I am still not sure why you keep bringing this up. Hamilton wanted a conditional ratification, and Madison said no. He said they cannot make any promises to incorporate New York’s amendments in the future. That is the end of the story.

Mr. Kalamata


701 posted on 01/14/2020 8:44:15 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata
That is not the end of the story. Can you not read? From James Madison to Alexander Hamilton

N. York Sunday Evening [20 July 1788]

My Dear Sir

Yours of yesterday is this instant come to hand & I have but a few minutes to answer it. I am sorry that your situation obliges you to listen to propositions of the nature you describe. My opinion is that a reservation of a right to withdraw if amendments be not decided on under the form of the Constitution within a certain time, is a conditional ratification, that it does not make N. York a member of the New Union, and consequently that she could not be received on that plan. Compacts must be reciprocal, this principle would not in such a case be preserved. THE CONSTITUION REQUIRES AND ADOPTION IN TOTO AND FOR EVER. It has been so adopted by the other States. An adoption for a limited time would be as defective as an adoption of some of the articles only. In short any condition whatever must viciate the ratification. What the New Congress by virtue of the power to admit new States, may be able & disposed to do in such case, I do not enquire as I suppose that is not the material point at present. I have not a moment to add more than my fervent wishes for your success & happiness.

James Madison

706 posted on 01/15/2020 3:53:06 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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