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To: OIFVeteran; DoodleDawg; jdsteel; eartick; Kalamata; Who is John Galt?; DiogenesLamp; central_va; ...

“So the founders created a Constitution that allowed for slavery to be ended.”

The founders did something much more important than that: they created a Constitution that allowed for slavery to be ended peacefully - through an amendment process that would not spill one drop of blood.

And yet, Lincoln “fought to free the slaves.” Before the war, Northern congressmen to my knowledge, never introduced an amendment to end slavery in the United States.

They never even tried. And that includes Lincoln when he served in Congress.

Let me anticipate your response: they did not introduce an abolition amendment only because it was not in their own economic and political best self interest.


678 posted on 01/14/2020 11:06:01 AM PST by jeffersondem
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To: jeffersondem
Let me anticipate your response: they did not introduce an abolition amendment only because it was not in their own economic and political best self interest.

How about they never introduced such an amendment because prior to the rebellion such an amendment would have needed 46 states to ratify it assuming the 15 slave states all voted the ratification down? Do the math.

679 posted on 01/14/2020 11:12:54 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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No, the didn’t introduce one because it would be blocked by the southern congressman. In fact those congress men, with the help of doughface northerners actually passed a gag rule that stopped Americans from their constitutional right to petition the government for the referees of their grievances. .But you know this.

As far as Eisenhower goes, its one mans opinion. I would also guess he never read Lee’s letter to his son during the secession crisis.

Secession is nothing but revolution. The framers of our Constitution never exhausted so much labor, wisdom, and forbearance in its formation, and surrounded it with so many guards and securities, if it was intended to be broken by every member of the Confederacy at will. It was intended for “perpetual union,” so expressed in the preamble, and for the establishment of a government, not a compact, which can only be dissolved by revolution or the consent of all the people in convention assembled. It is idle to talk of secession.
Robert E. Lee January 23 1861

So even Les acknowledged that secession was nothing but revolution. Which means he was a traitor.


682 posted on 01/14/2020 11:30:25 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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