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To: Kalamata; BroJoeK

While your still pondering what Madison meant in that letter maybe you can help me figure out what some of the other founding fathers meant by these statements. Thanks for your help!

“There are four things, which I humbly conceive, are essential to the well being, I may even venture to say, to the existence of the United States as an Independent Power:

1st. An indissoluble Union of the States under one Federal Head.

“That there must be a faithfull and pointed compliance on the part of every State, with the late proposals and demands of Congress, or the most fatal consequences will ensue, That whatever measures have a tendency to dissolve the Union, or contribute to violate or lessen the Sovereign Authority, ought to be considered as hostile to the Liberty and Independency of America, and the Authors of them treated accordingly”

Both quotes from Washington’s Circular Farewell Letter to the Army 1783

Alexander Hamilton: “Let the thirteen States, bound together in a strict and indissoluble Union, concur in erecting one great American system” Federalist 11

Charles Cotesworth Pinckney at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention, 1788. On the indivisibility of the United States, Pinckney said:

Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses.


553 posted on 01/11/2020 7:08:17 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: OIFVeteran

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “While your still pondering what Madison meant in that letter maybe you can help me figure out what some of the other founding fathers meant by these statements. Thanks for your help!”

I have already posted a reply on the Madison letter to Hamilton, and you are welcome.

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>>OIFVeteran quoting: “Washington’s Circular Farewell Letter to the Army 1783”

Washington’s visions were incorporated into the U.S. Constitution, in Convention in 1787, including protections against attempts to consolidate power, of which he played a vital role.

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>>OIFVeteran quoting: “Alexander Hamilton: “Let the thirteen States, bound together in a strict and indissoluble Union, concur in erecting one great American system” Federalist 11”

Hamilton’s idea of a “great American system” was an un-American British mercantile system, based on a national bank, fiat currency, and crony capitalism. Clay and Lincoln were proponents of Hamilton’s “American System.”

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>>OIFVeteran quoting: “Charles Cotesworth Pinckney at the South Carolina Ratifying Convention, 1788. On the indivisibility of the United States, Pinckney said: Let us, then, consider all attempts to weaken this Union, by maintaining that each state is separately and individually independent, as a species of political heresy, which can never benefit us, but may bring on us the most serious distresses.”

Attempts to nullify the revolution and give the central government unlimited power, were defeated in convention. That left Lincoln no alternative but to usurp power by force.

Mr. Kalamata


577 posted on 01/11/2020 2:30:15 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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