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To: OIFVeteran; BroJoeK; jeffersondem; rockrr; x

>>OIFVeteran wrote: “You couldn’t be more wrong. I have found BroJoek’s comments on these and other posts to be very informative and well sourced.”

I have found the opposite. His sources are weak, to be kind.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Many times he has sent me searching through my books or the internet to verify his posting and I have so far found them to be accurate.”

We must be talking about different BroJoeK’s. I have yet to see any solid references from him. Mostly he follows the lead of the orthodoxy-of-the-day.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “Unlike other posters on this site that like to selectively site sources (looking at you jeffersondem).”

Those who live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “As far as his world view and religious beliefs go I can’t really comment on those. There are many Christians I know that believe the earth is billions of years old and that evolution did happen.”

So did I, until well into my 60’s (I have been a Christian since my 20’s). But once I was exposed to contrary evidence against evolution (and billions-of-years,) I accepted it. The same with American History and Lincoln. I didn’t have a clue that Lincoln was a blood-thirsty, central-planning tyrant until this century.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “As far as the founding fathers, denying they were influenced by the enlightenment is denying historic facts. Ben Franklin and Thomas Jefferson were confirmed Deist.”

Painting them with the broad brush of the so-called “Enlightenment” does them disservice. There were some horrific doctrines that came out of the so-called “Enlightenment.” A more accurate representation would be, they were guided by their Christian heritage.

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>>OIFVeteran wrote: “And though only the most hardcore liberal would deny the influence of Christianity on our country it was not the only influence. Our country is the end result of three major cultural influences, Greco-Roman, Judeo-Christian, and the enlightenment. All three helped create (IMHO) the greatest country that has ever existed on this planet, the United States of America. It has produced a country that now allows the most individual freedom and highest standard of living human beings have ever seen. It’s not perfect, but then nothing on this planet is, but I love it and would defend it with my life.”

Out nation is hanging on by a thread, and the chief culprits appear to be the doctrines of crony capitalism and central planning: both given to us by Lincoln (actually, the Hamiltonite Henry Clay, Lincoln’s hero.) My rule of thumb is, if the Marxists worship him, his doctrine cannot be good for mankind; and Marxists love the memory of Abraham Lincoln.

Regarding our standard of living, anyone can appear to be living high-on-the-hog if they have enough credit. Subtract 20 trillion from our standard of living and see if it looks the same.

Your patriotism is noted. I served my country in time of war, and I am honored to have had the privilege.

Mr. Kalamata


280 posted on 01/01/2020 8:41:37 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata

Question for you. What do you believe President Buchanan’s response (constitutionally) should have been to South Carolina’s declaration of secession?


283 posted on 01/02/2020 5:01:16 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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