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To: jeffersondem

I feel as if we are talking past each other. Let me clarify. I think the founders were right, at the time, to put the unification of the country over ending slavery. The biggest fear of the founding fathers who supported the constitution was that the country would not survive under the articles of confederation.

Under the AoC it was feared that the central government was too weak and the states would break off on their own. This would lead to wars between the state’s and meddling and conquests by foreign powers. I think they were absolutely correct on this assumption. See all the Europeans wars and say how often parts of Italy were invaded until they unified. If the country had fallen apart it’s possible that instead of being retired from the US Army I would be retired from the Ohio Army and a veteran of the 32nd and 33rd Ohio Michigan wars.

When I say I wish the founders had ended slavery or put a definitive time frame on it ending(like they did the slave trade) I’m wishing the representatives from South Carolina, Georgia and North Carolina had the wisdom and foresight to see that slavery was incompatible with a country who’s foundational premise is “all men are created equal”.


1,461 posted on 02/05/2020 4:29:32 PM PST by OIFVeteran
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“When I say I wish the founders had ended slavery or put a definitive time frame on it ending(like they did the slave trade) I’m wishing the representatives from South Carolina, Georgia and North Carolina had the wisdom and foresight to see that slavery was incompatible with a country who’s foundational premise is “all men are created equal”.

The people who drafted the proposed United States Constitution figured they needed at least nine states ratifying to create a viable country. That is what they said: nine shall be sufficient.

Without Georgia and North and South Carolina there was more than enough states to ratify the constitution and have a viable country.

Your eagerness to scapegoat three thirteenths of the original states probably serves some purpose you have in mind. I don’t know.

We do know of the original 13 slave states, 13 of them voted to include slavery in the United States Constitution.


1,465 posted on 02/05/2020 7:24:01 PM PST by jeffersondem
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