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To: Bull Snipe
Of course you can produce a copy of that order signed by Lincoln. If not, seems like pure speculation or wishful thinking on your part.

You know very well that the orders were signed by Lincoln's officials. Only David Porter's super secret hand written orders were signed by Lincoln.

200 hundred artillerymen unschooled in the use of rifles or bayonets constitutes a “marine landing force”?

As I said, if you read the Confederate messages, they thought there would be thousands of men landing. They also believed there would be more ships than were actually sent. The telegraph messages mention the names of some ships they thought were coming, and some of the troops they thought were coming along with them.

With Lincoln's generals saying a force of 20,000, and with the knowledge of how many men it would take to successfully attack them, it wasn't unreasonable for them to believe a lot more force was coming than actually came.

Nobody expected a token force to just show up and be all show and no fight. They thought it was real, which i'm sure was Lincoln's intent.

1,449 posted on 02/05/2020 1:25:33 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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To: DiogenesLamp

“Only David Porter’s super secret hand written orders were signed by Lincoln.”

Then how do you know what they said. Or is that your imagination, hope?

The Confederates, if they thought Lincoln could send forces of thousands against Charleston, were stupid.

Only 16,000 men in the entire U.S. Army. Over 14,000 of them stationed West of the Mississippi River. The remainder posted all over the United States at that time. No call up of the militia had been issued. They would have known that the Navy could not support a large scale operation, because it did not have the ships to do so. The Navy had 42 ships in commission at the time. Twenty or so were in distant seas on patrol. Half of the remainder were in Naval Shipyards and unavailable. That left Lincoln about 10 warships. Some of them were sail powered and unsuitable for the task. It may well have been that the three naval vessels and the revenue cutter were the only ships available for the enterprise. These facts would have been known to the Confederate Government.


1,451 posted on 02/05/2020 1:58:48 PM PST by Bull Snipe
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