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To: BroJoeK; DoodleDawg; central_va; Kalamata; rockrr; OIFVeteran

Another reason why the agrarian CSA wanted to disconnect from a rapidly industrializing North. In a way there’s is anther lesson: as the USA (stupidly IMO) morphs into agrarian, service info economy that depends on imports to survive the Chinese are industrializing. I look at industry as “masculine” and service, info, agrarian as “feminine”. So the USA is now morphing into a feminine economy and China has of late a more “masculine” economy. Sadly industrial countries always beat the import dependent country in a war Always.


1,370 posted on 02/04/2020 4:57:43 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va; BroJoeK; DoodleDawg; Kalamata; rockrr
The only reason the southern rebels rebelled was because of the perceived threat the "black" republican posed to slavery. This view can be seen in a letter Senator Toombs of Georgia to Alexander Stephens months before Lincoln was nominated as the Republican Presidential candidate.

"In view of such effects and consequences here from the mere possession of one branch of Congress we ought not to shut our eyes to the effects of the possession of the government in all of its departments by any Black Republican. It would abolitionize Maryland in a year, raise a powerful abolition party in Va., Kentucky, and Missouri in two years, and foster and rear up a free labour party in [the] whole South in four years. Thus the strife will be transferred from the North to our own friends. Then security and peace in our borders is gone forever. Therefore I deeply lament that any portion of our people shall hug to their bosoms the delusive idea that we should wait for some "overt act." I shall consider our ruin already accomplished when we submit to a party whose every principle, whose daily declarations and acts are an open proclamation of war against us, and the insidious effects of whose policy I see around me every day. For one I would raise an insurrection, if I could not carry a revolution, to save my countrymen, and endeavor to save them in spite of themselves."

Letter from Senator Robert Toombs to Alexander Stephens-February 10,1860

1,372 posted on 02/04/2020 5:06:18 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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