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Somehow he forgets that his “right” to independence doesn’t come at our expense.

BroJoeK admits the Southern states were producing at least 50% of the Federal income, and once I got him to admit it was as high as 60%.

There were 20 million or so citizens in the North, and about 5 million citizens in the South, yet the South was producing at least 50% of the federal revenue, so who was paying for it again?

And that his “right” to rebel does not obviate my right to security and should he start an armed rebellion that affects me & mine I have a right to shoot back.

It's not your security when you are in someone else's house. When invited to leave, you should leave, rather than try to provoke a fight with the homeowner.