[DiogenesLamp]

“Be that as it may. By Lincoln’s death 3,600,00 slaves were free persons. Within a year of his death the remaining 800,000 were free persons. Not a bad record for a white-supremacist, white-separatist, black-colonizationist.”

I'd give him credit for doing that if that was what he set out to do, but given that it was a subsequent afterthought, done only because of the usefulness of it to both the war effort and his political power, i'll give him credit for being a clever manipulator of the public.

At least John Brown was honest and forthright in what he was doing, and did not try to pretend he did something Noble as cover for advancing his own self interests.

[Bull Snipe]

“I’d give him credit for doing that if that was what he set out to do, but given that it was a subsequent afterthought, done only because of the usefulness of it to both the war effort and his political power, i’ll give him credit for being a clever manipulator of the public.”

Results count. Little else matters.