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To: Kalamata
The year of 1859 was in what could be considered a "grace period," between the Polk and Morrill tariffs -- a period of rather free trade, and less government surplus.

Okay, if you say so. The Annual Treasury Reports are available for every year in US history. Pick one and show the vast expenditures going exclusively to benefit the north.

BTW, public works expenditures overwhelmingly favored the North.

Well, that should be easy for you to show from the Treasury Reports.

1,019 posted on 01/24/2020 1:05:28 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
>>Kalamata wrote: "The year of 1859 was in what could be considered a "grace period," between the Polk and Morrill tariffs -- a period of rather free trade, and less government surplus." >>Bubba Ho-Tep wrote: Okay, if you say so. The Annual Treasury Reports are available for every year in US history. Pick one and show the vast expenditures going exclusively to benefit the north."

I don't recall using such words as "vast expenditures." Did I use those or similar words, or are you embellishing?

I have posted reports and editorials (northern and southern,) the economic portion of the Georgia Secession Declaration, and even a link to the 1860 Kettle book on economics, all pointing to this conclusion from the GA declaration:

"The material prosperity of the North was greatly dependent on the Federal Government; that of the the South not at all.

So perhaps you will pick one of the treasury reports, say from the 1850 to 1860, and demonstrate to us how my sources are wrong. Please itemize.

Mr. Kalamata

1,023 posted on 01/25/2020 11:14:42 AM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Okay, if you say so. The Annual Treasury Reports are available for every year in US history. Pick one and show the vast expenditures going exclusively to benefit the north.

Among my reading I stumbled across the assertion that the mail carrying ships were subsidies to the North, since the North practically owned the packet shipping trade to all the country.

I've also read of fishing subsidies, which again benefited the fishing fleets of the North.

I also believe i've read that most Northern railroads were built with government subsidies, while those in the South were built by private hands.

It's probably a difficult tangle to sort out, but Robert Rhett refers to it in his speech at the South Carolina secession convention.

The people of the Southern States are not only taxed for the benefit of the Northern States, but after the taxes are collected three-fourths of them are expended at the North. This cause, with others connected with the operation of the General Government, has provincialized the cities of the South. Their growth is paralyzed, while they are the mere suburbs of Northern cities.

1,032 posted on 01/26/2020 8:07:15 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty.")
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