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Vanity: Are we missing something in the democrat strategy?
http://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index ^ | 12/16/2019 | samtheman

Posted on 12/16/2019 5:51:15 AM PST by samtheman

Many conservatives -- in the media, on FR, in the general population -- believe that the democrats are hurting themselves with this serial impeachment hoax.

Certainly I believe that.

But this morning I had a scary thought.

What if we are wrong? What if the demons are playing their cards in the most effective way they can? What if they are a Hitler who did not make the mistake of invading Russia, but went for the mideast oil instead? What if they are a Hitler who didn't waste his Luftwaffe on an unwinnable air war with the RAF? What if they are a Hitler who did everything right?

What that means in terms of today:

Trump has delivered Peace and Prosperity. Early in his first term it was pretty obvious that he was putting the country on track for Peace and Prosperity.

How are the demons supposed to combat THAT?

What can they do, argue for a Green New Deal, a Medicare For All? Well, sure, they can do that, and they do that. But that's only for their base. They can't win elections with those ideas.

There are only two things they can do:

1. Massive voter fraud. 2. Get rid of Trump outside of the electoral process.

We all assume that #1 is a given, but also that by itself it's not enough, especially given the Peace and Prosperity Trump is delivering.

So how to you run against Peace and Prosperity?

You don't.

So what do you do?

EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING.

The democrats are Hitler husbanding the Luftwaffe and not wasting it in a futile war over the skies of Britain. The democrats are Hitler keeping up the fiction of an alliance with Stalin and instead sending a massive force into North Africa, taking the Suez Canal and from there all of mideast oil... and with the help of the Luftwaffe they didn't lose over Britain, making the Mediterranean a German lake.

The democrats are evil. Very, very evil. As evil or more evil than Hitler. (I know... #1 internet violation, but I don't care.)

But they are not stupid. They are not making Hitlerian mistakes.

They are doing the right thing to win their evil goals.

For evidence I ask you one simple question:

Whatever you believe Trump's real approval rating is right now... I know we can't cite the publicly available fake-poll numbers, but there is a real number out there... and whatever that real number is... don't you think his approval rating would be significantly higher, maybe MUCH MUCH higher, if the democrats only ran on the issues and nothing else?


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To: samtheman

I think Donald Trump is very serious about getting rid of the corruption in our government. Very. It is one of his primary goals. It was stated as such in multiple rallies and in his inaugural address. The Democrats keep saying that he is an existential threat to our democracy...they are being VERY truthful. Trump IS an existential threat to THEIR warped view of government.


61 posted on 12/16/2019 6:44:18 AM PST by DouglasKC
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To: samtheman

Or the Democrat Leadership are really hyper narcissists who lives in an isolated bubble world surrounded by yes men and have convinced themselves their alternate reality is the real world and everyone agrees with them about hating Trump


62 posted on 12/16/2019 6:44:40 AM PST by MNJohnnie (They would have to abandon leftism to achieve sanity. Freeper Olog-hai)
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To: Ingtar

If President doesn’t win another term it will be due to massive voting cheating that we have never seen before. California where we loss many seats in HOR was a trial run. Michigan just changed their voting rules this past year where you can do absentee ballots now for any reason.

That hate is massive. Look at that wedding at a DC hotel where Women for Trump were holding a fund-raiser and all hell broke loose there.


63 posted on 12/16/2019 6:48:15 AM PST by Engedi (ui)
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To: patriotspride

Process starts over again. We have already heard that he could be impeached multiple times so to me that could be their cake and eat it too strategy.


The Invisible Hand has not gone away. There are always unintended consequences.

They can apply statistics and algorithms but every human individual is unique. Think about that, how is it possible we all have our unique fingerprints?


64 posted on 12/16/2019 6:49:23 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: samtheman

The strategy may yet work to remove a man who opposes the deep-state and the globalist oligarchy trying to take over America so the opposition to their one=world rule can succeed. The enemy inside the wire is the media who promote the demon rat lies as commanded. Demon rat voters have swallowed ALL the lies the Schiffforbrains Seditionists have spewed, so just showing them the True Facts is useless because demon rat voters are immune to facts. I have an otherwise smart cousin who is convinced by CNN, MSNBC< and the rest of the alphabet liars that Trump was running a pay-for-play bunko game having taken millions from foreign governments to be where he is. No amount of reason and evidence convinces such a dead head drone! They have been programmed by the true enemy of we the people, the servile, evil, degenerate media.


65 posted on 12/16/2019 6:51:08 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: samtheman

Dums be insane (Trump derangement syndrome)


66 posted on 12/16/2019 6:51:33 AM PST by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: samtheman

Of course. That is what Jeffrey Epstein was doing.

Don’t be naive.

The Left uses mafia tactics to control. They are mafia with soldier surrogates in SEIU, MS-13, and many others.

They are aligned with international criminals. For example, Fethullah ‘Feta’ Gulen. Look him up. He has a $40 billion dollar account in a Malaysian Bank with a $2 billion subaccount for Hillary Clinton. He is a worldwide narcotics gangster with poppy fields in Afghanistan. He has started more than 150 Islamic ‘Schools’ inside the US. He has had SEIU janitors work inside VA hospitals and stock the medicine storage lockers when no one was watching, stocking them with bad narcotics leading to deaths of veteran patients which he is said to think as ‘revenge killings’ for actions taken in Afghanistan by US forces.

And he calls himself ‘Imam’. He’s not an Imam. He’s a liar and close supporter of Hillary Clinton.

He is the one that General Mike Flynn was investigating which prompted the targeting of General Flynn for malicious prosecution.

He’s wanted by Erdogan of Turkey for attempting a coup d’etat of Erdogan’s government.

He’s a favorite of Obama.

He’s just one of many that is in the background of the Democrat coup.

And it is a coup.

Americans are in denial to think it wouldn’t couldn’t happen here.


67 posted on 12/16/2019 6:52:03 AM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: samtheman

Bottom line: the Democrats view the operation as having some possibility of success, or they wouldn’t bother.

While there may be total idiots among their low-level followers, we should assume that the leadership is shrewd and has some sort of plan. Just because we don’t see what the plan is, does not mean that there isn’t a plan.


68 posted on 12/16/2019 6:55:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: samtheman
When they started the Nixon impeachment, the public was not on board. Demoncrats brought witness after witness, and with the help of the press and worsening economy, Republicans caved and asked him to resign.

My guess Demoncrats are planning a “Nixon” strategy in the Senate. If 4 RINOs cave, they win
69 posted on 12/16/2019 6:59:53 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: samtheman

one of my only D friends (who is reasonably politically astute and TRIES to hold his bias in check to talk”honestly”), has told me flat out that the entire point of the impeachment is to chip away at moderate Rs’ and Independents’ love for the Pres.

They think they simply need somewhere between the difference in 2016 and another weak R turn-out like in 2018 to defeat T in 2020.


70 posted on 12/16/2019 7:01:55 AM PST by BTerclinger (MAGA)
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To: samtheman

If you’re worried about #2 I would not worry so much about this comic opera impeachment. It has failed amongst all but the most radical partisan Dems.

I would worry about the ol’ 38 caliber electoral vote. My fear is THAT will be the Deep State’s next move.


71 posted on 12/16/2019 7:02:19 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer)
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To: Cen-Tejas

I’m not saying I would vote democrat. But the scenario I outlined is a clear abuse of power and would be wrong for any President of either party to do. I don’t believe that is what Trump did here. I think he believes (and rightfully so) that something illegal went on with Hunter Biden and Burisma.

Some things are just wrong, doesn’t matter who does it.


72 posted on 12/16/2019 7:02:31 AM PST by OIFVeteran
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To: teeman8r
"or this is just a feint to hide the massive voter fraud coming down the pike... "

In many places, voting will no longer matter. We will see if that is true nationally, but the Democrat Marxists do not intend to lose no matter what so we should expect anything and everything; and if the ballot box no longer matters, then it will be time for all American Patriots to decide if they will throw off the yoke of the oppressors. The same will apply if there is betrayal in the Senate and the Deep State engineers President Trump' removal.

73 posted on 12/16/2019 7:08:32 AM PST by Truth29
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To: CIB-173RDABN
It does get tiresome repeating these same facts, doesn't it?

How many times must it be said that the counties/states where voter fraud most frequently occurs are already DNC controlled? That is, it doesn't matter if CA/NY cast 10m more votes, it will have NO impact on the electoral totals.

Now, this does highlight the fact that large metro regions withing red states provide the greatest risk. However, it's easy to specifically ID these cities and focus voter integrity efforts in those areas. So, to summarize, all Trump has to do is determine the key battleground states (5 max?), then focus on their respective metro/capital regions. Not too difficult, and certainly no cause for lack of sleep worrying about CA/NY.

74 posted on 12/16/2019 7:19:42 AM PST by semantic
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To: samtheman

Trump has learned a lot about the Swamp over the past three years. The most important thing is you cannot drain the Swamp by force. It’s too embedded in both parties. So, just as self-deportation is the best was to deal with illegals, the best way to drain the Swamp is to stand aside and watch the Swamp seep away.

It’s the only way and it won’t be close to being drained until Pense’s second term.


75 posted on 12/16/2019 7:19:48 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Truth29

Don’t forget, many Republicans have good reason to see Trump in a tight box, or even impeached. There are so many high crimes that potentially could be exposed in an in depth investigation, and they are not Trump’s “crimes”. Lindsay Graham is certainly at the top of the list. The loyalties are not to the Nation, the parties or the constituents, they are to the deep state.


76 posted on 12/16/2019 7:21:06 AM PST by Hillary'sMoralVoid
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To: OIFVeteran

I agree with everything you say but keeping a Democrat out of the Oval Office Trump’s (no pun intended) everything.


77 posted on 12/16/2019 7:31:22 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: samtheman

“2. Get rid of Trump outside of the electoral process.”

And we all know what that includes, and they aren’t above pulling that off. Then they “deal with” Pence. Then ... ta-da! ... President Pelosi.


78 posted on 12/16/2019 7:34:24 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ("I've read the back of The Book, and we win.")
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

Pelosi tried fo stop nothing.

She had a specific schedule to make. Now.

They are trying to damage Trump so Hillary can get elected !


79 posted on 12/16/2019 7:42:24 AM PST by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: samtheman

They’re so corrupt it is either do what they’re doing (somehow get rid of PDJT) or go to jail.

They’re corrupt over their necks. The day after it was mentioned that Pelosi’s son might also be involved in Ukraine corruption she went ahead with impeachment.

They have no choice. This is war.


80 posted on 12/16/2019 7:51:19 AM PST by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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