Posted on 12/15/2019 10:56:15 AM PST by BobL
In fact,we live in a *very* imperfect world.
Not a good idea to go for a walk in the park at night in Harlem, even Harlem near Columbia / Barnard. It would be nice if there was better police protection. I do some work with someone in Scotland who can’t understand how it isn’t safe to walk in some places no matter how much I try to explain it.
Probably part of the problem is her father is this liberal college professor and her parents probably taught her not to be “racist”.
Yes, quite so...
OTOH I still say fry the little F in the chair, after the fair trial.
There is such a thing as unnecessary risk. There is also necessary risk.
I would seriously rethink working a night shift in that neighborhood. That might be an unnecessary level of risk for some, but not for others.
Leaving ones dorm when it's in a bad neighborhood should be done in groups. That's what I advised my daughter when she went to college - even in a very nice small town in rural North Carolina, with a very proactive administration and its own police force. But in my line of work I see lots of victims - some who took unnecessary risks, and some who were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. There are no guarantees, ever, but it's a question of considering the odds.
Under NO circumstances, however, should a young girl go out to purchase drugs in a bad neighborhood in the middle of the night. She is deliberately making contact with a greedy, amoral, and murderous set of people in an area where law enforcement or decent folk will not be around to intervene. With - unfortunately - predictable results.
It's a ridiculous leap from there to your crypto-Islamic example. One can be sensible without being silly.
Lol, you’re an idiot.
So now we should believe the murderers?
Thank you for the link. Response 157 links to an article describing recent surge of violence in Morningside Park.
Can’t say for sure about the Craigslist thing, but I’ve watched it firsthand.
That could be
I was there two summers ago....
Maybe 3 actually....I was surprised to see so much gentrification north of east 96 over to fifth ave etc
Around Patsys
All these white hipsters
I remember watching a hipster on a motorized moped zooming down from the park behind St Johns onto 110th
I was on morningside heights at. West 115 early in my manhattan days
1983
I ran them and as you know a mile is usually 19 to 20 north south blocks and 6-8 east west ones
I’d run on the side of morningside drive opposite the park and up to 110th and up the hill past St Johns and across past the Hungarian tea room and VTs pizza over to broadway and up to the pass thru at Columbia to the south lawn and over to Amsterdam and up and down the hill to 122nd and east back up morningside drive to 115th and turn west to my apartment on the north side of 115
Huge four bedroom pre war with three baths and living area and large kitchen on second floor....450 a month subsidized for Columbia grad students
My girlfriend was teaching at Barnard and working on her PhD at Lamont Dougherty observatory Woods Hole which is part of Columbia
Our roomies were two queens Jewish commie kids specializing in Russian studies and were in Moscow all the time and a rich girl from Omaha who’d actually dropped out but her folks kept sending money and she lived with her professor boyfriend up river at Piermont
We had this 2500 sq foot apartment to ourselves for 100 bucks a month heat included
Crazy...
You’re right white gentrification makes blacks areas more dangerous
/s
its not binary as they say these days
Yes white gentrification has made the part of Harlem east of morningside park safer....no question
But yes there are still buildings with riff raft and not to mention 125 street north is still injun country and they can travel south that distance easily
In my opinion having lived there before when it was absolutely forbidden for me to enter and now when I saw with my own eyes many whites walking around all over the place and shops and stores unlike the 80s I’d wager it’s safer but yes not perfectLy safe like the West Vilage might be
And naive girl wanders into the park to buy weed after dark is vulnerable
Even sadly....to 13 year olds
I have a 13 year old
Can’t imagine him stabbing anyone but himself on accident
Regards
Yes you have a point
My lawyer was mugged on Central Park south at 9pm in front of the St Moritz
My wife and I her very pregnant lived near Madison square in a high floor high rise wrap around ...only modern building ever for me
We were walking from dinner at the old basement joint below Grand Central, Oyster bar downstairs
Walking back at night on Park ave south we were accosted by 20-30 black teens wielding couples and folks on the sidewalks
They hurled racial smears at her being very swollen with child and her being Latin looking with an obvious gringo husband ...
She was defiant as was her nature which set them back a bit...
Fortunately someone had called the cops and they showed up in force lights and sirens and they ran in many directions
One cop on foot walked us the 9-10 blocks home from there
I’m not unaccustomed to fistfights and carried an edged weapon but admittedly I felt helpless
It was around the time of the jogger attack in north Central Park...of which some of these cretins eventually got off
Anyhow...we moved to brickell ave in Miami the next week as planned and it was a new world
Our daughter was born the next week a tiny preemie unexpectedly
That attack was late July
She loved Miami versus Manhattan
You know I bought a pump mossberg on Mott street in 1986 and walked him with it in the box all the way to Madison sq
And nobody said squat....no ID NEEDED....PISTOL GRIP NO STOCK
THATS A TALE ISNT IT
Yeah, I realize that major cities don’t provide public safety for multiple reasons (PC, politics, cost, lack of will, lack of ability). I’m not talking about a general cleanup. The same kid arrested for murdering the girl had recently chased a younger girl into a store, knocked her down, and kicked her crap out of her. The store clerk called police, and provided pics. If bothering to make an easy arrest on a specific crime with a clear third party description and even pics of someone known in the area is outside the “rules of engagement”, what is inside the rules? I also realize that police cannot stop courts from turning felons loose in five minutes.
I agree that the victim’s parents should not have sent their child to one of America’s worst “no go” areas, even if that meant her not attending the college of her choice. If enough parents boycotted unsafe inner City colleges (and many highly ranked universities are surrounded by high crime areas), perhaps the colleges would close or move. Charlottesville has its own predator problem abetted by PC government, but the girl’s parents probably could not conceive the scale of danger in NYC.
I don’t agree that Columbia / Bernard are that dangerous. This story made big news. It is not like a high percentage of students there get killed. There are other schools worse in the hood, like Georgia Tech and Johns Hopkins Medical School.
I would modify that good advice according to an old proverb: "The wolf does not care how many sheep he faces". Your daughter is safer with one large, armed boyfriend, than she is with a group of other girls.
I grew up in Brooklyn, any park after dark is a bad part of town. It helped if you were known to the gang that owned it. But even that wasn’t a guarantee.
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