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To: nanetteclaret

I’m glad to support you having your own opinion. I’ll always support having my own. I don’t kill my meat and I support the right of people to hunt. I just feel guilty when I eat meat. I don’t abort babies, but I support the freedom of people who do it in the first trimester. After that, to me, you’re trading the rights of mother and baby. And the baby wins in the 3rd. You’re absolutely free to believe something different.

I believe in this country. If you get something passed thru congress, I’ll support it. If the other side does, I’ll support that because I believe in majority rule. You don’t have to. That’s your right. But you’ll never tell me what to believe. And I have the same right to have a private opinion of people whom I consider bigots as you have the right to think the whole world needs to think exactly the same way you do. That’s the glory of living in this country.


877 posted on 11/29/2019 6:37:12 PM PST by mairdie
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To: mairdie

Killer defense, lady! Good job.


879 posted on 11/29/2019 6:47:15 PM PST by blu (Bagster-s ping on the side)
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To: mairdie

I think I understand where you are coming from, mairdie. It is close to my opinion/thoughts about this difficult topic.

I detest abortion at any stage. I consider it a violation of God’s commandment. THOU SHALT NOT MURDER.

So I follow that in my own life. But I remember that God has given us the freedom to choose His way, or our own desires. We all sin in individually different ways, preferring our own desires instead of His will.

I have no right to judge those who kill unborn babies. I can only pray that they repent, confess, and sin no more. My heart hurts for them, and for those precious little souls that God created.

That said, I do think that we as a community should not accept and justify the murder of the unborn, and should not confuse a woman’s right to control her own body with her desire to kill an inconvenient and unwanted life.

She abrogated her right to control her own body when she engaged in sex. Killing the consequential life that resulted is not her right. Instead, that little life becomes her responsibility to nurture and protect, no matter how inconvenient. And, in my mind, even rape doesn’t justify the abortion of a developing baby. We do not have the right, in my thinking.

We must condemn the slaughter of these babies and must encourage women not to abort, but we must remember not to judge the sinner, but to pray for them.

I won’t vote for a political candidate who supports abortion, particularly late-term abortion. I also do not think it is a Federal Government/Congressional right to decide, but up to each of us as individuals to choose who we will follow, God’s will, or our own.

God, or the wide and easy path that excuses all sorts of sin, justifying anything an everything under the sun, because that’s the way we feel “comfy” wallowing in our sinful personal desires.

I do wonder why you see a difference between 1st trimester and later trimesters. The rights of the mother to murder are justified in the first 3 months, but not in the later 6?

How do you figure that? I can’t see it. But, that is just me, who sees life’s longing for itself, with no easy divisions according to our willful natures.


915 posted on 11/29/2019 11:44:33 PM PST by jacquej ("You cannot have a conservative government with a liberal culture." (Mark Steyn))
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To: mairdie; blu
Mairdie and Blu, I support you.

Trolls and threadsliders can eat crap.


924 posted on 11/30/2019 4:56:34 AM PST by USMC79to83
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To: mairdie

The truth is that we live in a constitutional republic based on laws. That is meant to provide room for people to have differing (ideally well-considered) opinions. As we do not have a single individual making our laws it requires real world compromises. I have long thought if our government was interested in representing the people they could easily hash out a compromise on the gun control/abortion issue. What we seek to limit is the ability of another person to arbitrarily take another human life. That would require limits on guns and limits on abortion. Our form of government requires we tolerate differing opinions while seeking to create consensus. It is a precarious balance to maintain. All sides threaten to slide into the tyranny of orthodoxy. That is exactly the problem our government was created to avoid and why we separate state and religion. But it requires a willingness to hear the other side and the ability compromise.

Besides this problem can be debated in some other thread. It is not why we are here.


965 posted on 11/30/2019 10:23:50 AM PST by AmyShaftoe (Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power. AL)
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