https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1159639604372393984.html
The long clip below will explain who Chris Butler is and just how much influence he has over Tulsi Gabbard.
This guy is a narcissus and has total control over his flock of some 1,000 people worldwide.He controls their entire family every little detail of their lives and they all live in fear.The author endured his rule for years than spoke out and was banned from the cult.
Gabbard accd. to the author,aka lalita, is still under the control of Butler and were she ever to achieve the power of presidency we would have yet another obama who was ruled by others.We dont need that again.
here is the long clip:
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I also remember Chris Butler held this larger than life presence in my childhood. Everything I did I had to think about how it benefited him. He was my parents spiritual master and they looked to him for guidance on everything, from what to eat, to how to raise their children, and they did it all without question. When I talk to people about the lack of questioning, they find that aspect odd. It is odd, but to put it into perspective, I was raised to believe Chris Butler was Gods voice on earth, and if you questioned him or offended him in any way, you were effectively offending God, and because we believed in reincarnation, that meant that you would be reborn as the lowest lifeform imaginable and then have to spend eons working your way back into Gods good graces. So questioning the leader was spiritual suicide, which was seen as worse than death. So no-one questioned. Chris Butler also would ridicule the intelligence of anyone he didnt like, belittling anyone he felt was questioning his authority even slightly. He demanded the utmost dedication and loyalty from his followers and if he didnt get it, the punishments were swift and severe. I remember hearing stories of people who were told they werent allowed to eat because they didnt make food to his liking, who were not allowed to sleep because there was a light making a buzzing noise in the house, and the follower didnt have the foresight to fix the issue ahead of time.
Literally everything we did had to go through Chris. If you wanted to work outside of the group, you had to ask his permission. No-one could get married without his consent. From the late 80’s all of us kids were removed from public schools because he didnt want them influencing our minds away from our service to him. So from that point we were home schooled, until there were schools established in the Philippines. After that all the children were sent to the boarding schools there for intensive schooling. From the small pieces of information that made it out of the schools to me, a lot of the kids were traumatised by the environment, as it was almost prison like. Classes were on hygiene and cooking and all the ways that they would need to serve Chris Butler best. Its only speculation, but I am certain that this was because places like the US and Australia had standards of education that the home schools has to meet, and they just werent. They could avoid scrutiny by having the kids in boarding schools in the Philippines. I cant even imagine how dreadful it was for my friends who got sent there. I was lucky to avoid it. I didnt avoid the lack of schooling though, and by the time I officially left the Science of Identity Foundation in 1997, just before I turned 20, I had only received up to a 5th grade education.
From a young child I remember one of the main features of my life was the lectures that were sent to us via tape for us to listen to. Basically these were 1 hour long sessions of Chris talking about his beliefs how evil and out of control gay people were, how women were inferior and sub human and should be controlled by their husbands, how messed up and evil the outside world was, and how his relationship with God was so special, only he could lead you back to Godhead (Heaven) and that he had so much control over his existence on earth, he could choose the moment of his death. We worshiped him, loved him even. Another part of his teachings was that all life is an illusion, and because of that all relationships were an illusion. We were encouraged to not invest in any relationships other than with him, so we were in effect isolated from our parents who did their best to not love us as per his recommendation, and instead looked at him like a surrogate father/messiah figure. He was this imposing force in our life that we werent supposed to offend, which is frankly terrifying when youre a small child. I remember having many nightmares and a condition called sleep paralysis which can be brought on in times of great stress. My sister developed stress induced epilepsy during the time when we were supposed to be taken out of school. For my parents part, they did try to keep us in school for as long as they could, but when Chris heard parents were resisting him, his directive was clear get them out or else. Every time my parents would try to take us to school, my sister would become hysterical and then she started having seizures. That was the power he had over us.
I really wanted to paint this picture of my childhood, because Tulsi Gabbard grew up in the same group that I did. She was subjected to the same environment I was. Shes still surrounded by this group and calls Chris Butler her guru. This is why the increased interest and her rise to power concerns me so greatly. I want to be very clear, I have no issue with Tulsi, as far as I am concerned, shes as much a victim as I am, more so because she was groomed from an early age specifically for the path she is now on. What I am concerned about is the control I know Chris Butler has over her, the influence he has over her ability to make decisions, decisions that could become law and impact a whole lot of people. I know what an abusive, misogynistic, homophobic, germophobic, narcissistic nightmare Chris Butler is. And I know what kind of relationship he has with Tulsi.
If I could put it in a way that maybe more people could understand, look at the relationship between Ivanka Trump and her father. Its very clear to me that Ivanka walks a very fine line between trying to be her own person and trying not to piss off her father by doing so. Donald, by many accounts, is a person who demands utmost loyalty, and will attack anyone who doesnt give it, and remove them swiftly from his life. So you can imagine Ivanka while being her own person, would immediately shut down her own feelings and opinions if she knew her father would see her as disloyal. She would get cut off if she lost favor. Theres a lot she has to lose if she opposed her father.
Tulsi Gabbard is in the same position, only the stakes are higher. Not only would she lose support for the position she holds, but she would lose her family, all of her friends, and this messiah/father figure if she opposed Chris Butler. She would be outcast from the only existence she has ever known. Thats a hugely powerful reason to continue to please Chris Butler without question.
I truly feel for Tulsi. Hers is not an enviable position. I know because I spoke out about Chris Butler a few years ago, and my family cut off all contact from me. This has happened to every other person I know of who got out. I hope one day Tulsi does reject Chris and finds her own voice. She has done amazing things and it makes me sad to think that another victim who was been abused and manipulated her whole life isnt able to have the career shes worked so hard for, free and clear of Chriss toxic influence. Maybe one day she will, but while he is her guru, his influence over her makes her dangerous and unreliable, because Chris is dangerous and unpredictable.
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How old is this Science of Identity Foundation guy Chris Butler?
From a dig on Science of Identity Foundation:
https://scienceofidentity.org/about
“Jagad Guru Siddhaswarupananda Paramahamsa is a disciple of His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada in the disciplic succession (parampara) known as Brahma Madhva Gaudiya Sampradaya.
Jagad Guru is the founder of Science of Identity Foundation.
He has been teaching the science of yoga to people around the world for over 45 years.
Many serious individuals inspired by Jagad Guru have now taken on the role of teachers to assist him in spreading yoga wisdom.”
Guy has grey hair; how old is he?
What happens to the cult members when he dies?
Another thread from the same guy.
Be careful who you follow...
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1185561682132848645.html
Lets talk about succession. Not the best show on TV, which just ended its stellar second season; the presidential succession. Who will succeed Trump? Because, like Logan Roy, he must face the music.
1/ Odds are, Trump will either be 1) replaced by the Democrat on January 20, 2021, or 2) by his VP, Mike Pence, if he resigns or is impeached/removed prior to that. Those remain the two most likely outcomes. But there are complications with #2.
2/ It is a mortal lock that Trump will be impeached. Less certain is whether the GOP-controlled Senate will remove himalthough when it gets that far, the preponderance of evidence against him will be damning enough to give Republicans cover to vote him out.
3/ Its Pence that is the sticking point. If Trump is impeached & removed primarily for extorting Ukraine to invent dirt on Hunter Biden in exchange for the release of US aid I mean, Pence was part of that.
In other words: Whatever Trump did, Pence also did. #PenceKnew.
4/ What to do about Pence? We cant very well impeach & remove Ted Bundy, only to replace him with Richard Speck. But if Trump & Pence are BOTH removed, for the same crime? We get #PresidentPelosi. This is an outcome the GOP would prefer to avoid. So they wait.
5/ It was not supposed to be this way. The Founding Fathers did not envision a VP working hand-in-glove with the president. Originally, the VP was the second-highest vote getter. If we still had the old system, Hillary, not Pence, would be VP.
6/ Perhaps the Founders, in their wisdom, believed that a VP SHOULD be isolated from the White House, so if s/he had to take over, s/he would not carry the baggage of the incumbentfor good or ill. The close working relationship is a relatively recent phenomenon (Gore, Cheney).
7/ When Andrew Johnson & Harry Truman succeeded Lincoln & FDR, respectively, they were isolated from the administration, and in the dark about what their predecessors intentions were. This caused problems, for sure, but nothing like the problems Pences ascension would cause.
8/ If, say, John Kasich was VP right now, and hed had nothing to do with the inner workings of the Trump administration, GOP would be much more enthusiastic about removing the traitor in the Oval. Pences complicity gives them pause.
9/ This week, GOP patriots are coming outas I predicted. First Mitt Romney, now John Kasich. More will emerge in the next few weeks. Keep a watchful eye on Nikki Haley. These people are auditioning for the role of Acting President.
Greg Olear@gregolear
8/ Rank-and-file GOP turns on him.
Russian assets like @DevinNunes, @SpeakerRyan & Dana Rohrabacher will go down with the ship. But at some point, for the Republican party to survive in any form, sitting @GOP members of Congress will have to turn on Trump.
0/ As Ive been saying for years now, once it is apparent that Trump is toast and Pence is clearly complicit, it behooves GOP to convince the latter to resign, and have him replaced by a non-Trumpy Republican. (No, not you, Paul Ryan. Sit down with your dirty rubles).
11/ This means Mitch has to convince Pence to resign AND Trump to name someone he probably hates as the new VP. Then they can impeach and remove 45, and have some shot at winning in 2020.
Tough needle to thread, even for the Turtle.
12/ Remember: If Pence succeeds Trump, he gets impeached, too. Because, again, w/t/r UkraineHE DID THE SAME CRIME TRUMP DID. You dont replace a guy up to his eyeballs in treason wit one only up to his waist.
13/ Trump may not be on the ballot in 2020, and if he is, he will not win. I believe his G7/Doral announcement was a tell. Hes indicated that he does not plan to be president in June. I have been saying for two years, and I say it still, that he will resign, à la Nixon.
14/ The only hope the GOP has of making 2020 competitive is to oust Trump AND Pence ASAP, replacing the latter with Kasich, Romney, or Haley FIRST. Mitch surely knows this. Trump v. anyone is a Mondalesque trouncing in the general. But, say, Haley v. Biden? Thats in play.
15/
Q: Great, so what if Trump nominates Ivanka?
A: The new VP must be approved by both the Senate AND the House. So Trump will not be nominating the daughter-wife, or some other mobbed-up sycophant.
16/
Q: Why would Trump nominate Romney, Kasich, or Haley?
A: Mitch will convince him that he has no other recourse.
17/ The good guys will have Trumps taxes in a matter of days, or, worse-case scenario, a few months. The taxes expose him as a serial mob money launderer and tax cheat. He cannot survive releasing them. They are a Van Helsing heart-stake.
Uncle Blazer@blakesmustache
Thread: Manhattan DA (Cy Vance) may get Trumps tax returns soon.
Vance issued a grand jury subpoena to get Trumps tax returns. Trump lost the court case to block the subpoena, but won a temporary stay of the subpoena while he appeals. That stay could be lifted by Tuesday.
4:42 AM - Oct 19, 2019
18/ Pelosi & Schiff know this. Mitch knows it, too. The MSM is starting to figure it out. The writing on the wall is glaringonce you figure out how to read the Cyrillic letters. Checkmate is inevitable, and only a few moves away. Hence Trumps pathetic attempts at delay.
Make no mistake: Trump has lost the game. Hes going down. Its only a question of whether the knight will checkmate him, or the Queen.
WE SHALL PREVAIL!!!
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