Who says ransomnote is just a young girl and not wise in the ways of war.
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INCOMING! :D
There's no point in my responding to Jack Black directly as he has an agenda that's not influenced by information.
I wasn't going to respond at all because I think most on this thread can spot the distortions in his post, but then I recalled that we have new names popping up as time goes on so I will make a few comments which I hope will be helpful.
Here's an example - my original remarks were clearly about the accusations leveled at 8ch that they are a breeding ground for mass shooters.
Jack quotes me, "Manifestos were posted on Instagram, livestreamed, Facebook and Youtube. They don't originate on the chans...."
Then he responds to what I said with, "You can't say with a straight face that 8chan is no different than Twitter, YouTube or Instagram."
Did you see that Straw Man argument Jack propped up? I never said that those platforms were all the same, I said that the manifestos didn't originate on the chans and were posted on other platforms. If you bother to read Jack Black's posts, look for that distortion technique - it's one of his calling cards.
Then Jack takes his Straw Man argument out for a walk: "But that doesn't change that day-in and day-out for years and years 8chan tolerated base anti-semitism, Nazi larping, crude racism, serious advocates of white nationalism, all interspersed with lots of porn."
THIS is Jack's response to my comments about manifestos and the idea that 8ch does not incubate mass shooters? Everything EXCEPT the topic of mass shooters? Actually - it's just him embellishing his distortion. This stroll of Jack's is made all the more ironic because Jack has been called out a few times now for posting antisemitism on Free Republic. Yes. Really.
Jack said, "8chan had a unique Wild Wild West posting ethos."
Not really. 8chan has posting rules which state boards hosting illegal content will be deleted. The ENTIRE BOARD hosting illegal content will be deleted. That doesn't seem like the Wild West to me.
8chan has a free speech ethos. If it's not illegal, they allow it. This means crazy haters posting next to patriots - the patriots ignore the cray cray. In fact, I think some of them regard the cray cray as a handy KEEP OUT sign - they want people who will disrupt the flow of ideas with complaints to KEEP OUT, even if they personally find the cray cray repulsive. They skip it and read on.
Jack says the content of his Straw Man argument (anti-semitism, Nazi larping, crude racism etc. on 8chan) "...is why, LONG LONG before their internet service providers yanked the rug out from under them, and took them offline (probably forever), JimRob had forbidden content and links from there."
Actually, until JimRob makes a statement elaborating on his thoughts about this issue, I'll stick with what I know first-hand. A troll pinged JimRob from one of our threads claiming we were posting 8chan links and asserting 8chan was a known kiddie porn site. All our posts were taken down and I was asked not to post any more Q threads. I explained that we were NOT POSTING 8chan links and all our threads were reinstated. The Mod explained that 8chan links would not be permitted going forward.
I have always thought JimRob was wise to make that decision to restrict 8ch links, although it can be inconvenient at times. Whenever Q comes under particular attack, shills flood 8chan will repulsive kiddie porn and other repellent content - it really becomes a cesspool and then regular readers warn the rest of us, "Stay away! 8ch is under attack and it's unbelievable what's being posted! GAH!" At times like those, and during this period of time that 8chan is falsely portrayed as an incubator for mass shooters, Free Republic's decision not to post links is paying dividends. JimRob deprived anti-conservatives of a stick with which to beat us.
I have read 8chan so I find this comment by Jack silly, "Once the internet czars took the Daily Stormer off line, and succeeded, it was clear that they would go after lots and lots of other sites as the got around to it." First they went for the Daily Stormer (nazi site) and then they went for 8ch, eh? No, 8chan and Daily Stormer are not equivalent at all. Autists helping WIN the war against the Deep State are in no way similar to Daily Stormer Nazis.
8chan was taken down because Q was posting there and people were being red-pilled. Public opinion was CHANGING (still is) and the Deep State wanted to staunch the flow of information the MSM conceals and distorts, when they are not outright fabricating "FAKE NEWS" to bring down our president.
Instagram, YOUTUBE, Twitter etc. have "standards" against porn, but also against conservative opinion and Q. 8chan had no restrictions on conservative thought and Q - and that's why so much media attention has focused on destroying 8ch. People can post PRO TRUMP memes and MAGA on 8ch without fear of deletion, shadow banning etc.
Also worth noting, some of these big tech or social media websites do host porn or other objectionable content but don't admit it. I'd heard that about YOUTUBE from a 17 year old boy I mentor. He'd seen some sick stuff (kiddie porn). I tried to search one of the terms he mentioned and found a profile photograph of a YOUTUBER (male) who was more than "just" naked (particularly proud of his body and excited to show us). I know Amazon hosts or was caught hosting pornography because I recall it came under attack for it. These big tech sites don't openly reveal content that could hurt the bottom line.
This is the smallest victim card I've seen Jack play: "PS: Seeing as I've been accused of being a "paid shill" -- and I know for sure that I am not -- I have come to think that the constant accusation that everyone who has inconvenient opinions is paid opposition is a form of denial."
Jack's history on our Q threads is long and tedious. Were I to go out and collect links to all the negative statements he's made about people who post on the Q threads (not just Q, but people who post on our threads), it would take me forever and you'd find them remarkably repetitive. So repetitive in fact, that you might even call them talking points. Although he has portrayed us and our Q threads as toxic for a very long time now, he still seems to read every post!
He tried to start his Anti-Q thread within our Q thread. He opused off our threads and pushed the Microchip/Posobiec hoax long after both were (easily and thoroughly) exposed as fake news. When his attempts to build a following failed , he came slithering back to our threads. He still includes the following criticism of us on his profile page as of this writing:
Jack: "Q believers found this analysis incredibly irritating, and I eventually chose self-exile from their threads to avoid then endless stream of rude invective and insults directed at me from the believers."
Get that? On our threads we subject him to an "endless stream of rude invective and insults" and note he calls us "the believers" to portray us as a cult. Yet, he jest cain't quit us...
Jack is wrong about Microchip
Jack is wrong about Posobiec
Jack is wrong about Q
Jack is wrong about Q threads
Jack is wrong about FReeQs
Jack is wrong about 8chan
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His persistence, consistency and talking point style have led many of us to conclude he is a shill. Your mileage may vary. Perhaps it could just be an unhealthy obsession? :/
The definitive response. Great work. Too bad we have to go through this every so often. If part of the goal is to waste our time, he is achieving it.
I was on the “CWII” ping list for ~18 years, however long it has existed. JB is one of the posters who ping that list. So I would get pinged to this article and that article that seemed to point to the coming CWII and mostly I could agree that the stories didn’t bold well for our future harmony. Of course, we aren’t in CWII yet, unless you believe we are in a cold CWII at this point (I wouldn’t argue that we are not probably). Where I lost patience with JB was when he came to these threads proclaiming that Q “predicted” this and “predicted” that and it hasn’t happened so therefore Q is a larp, a fraud and a hoax. Of course, Q hasn’t predicted, rather educated for his readers to draw their own conclusions.
To me that made JB a hypocrite. If Q is a fraud because the things he posts about had not been all rolled up in a year and a half, what does that say about the things JB has been posting about for ~18 years? So I told him so and told him to take me off the list.
That’s a shame really because other respected posters use that list also. And for the record, I believe we are headed towards CWII myself. The Q posts have given me a reason finally to think that we may, with the election of PDJT, have a way to avoid that fearsome outcome.
Who says ransomnote is just a young girl and not wise in the ways of war.
very, very well said!! and that’s why you are the mother of dragons and i’m not!
petey
Wow, you definitely covered all the bases and make it understandable to anyone who is ‘confused’ about that poster. Great synopsis M.O.D.
Applause!
Did you ever wonder what it might be like to be able to know
what people really think? Or what they are trying to do?
Anonymous free speech is about as close as we can get
without going cyborg, or utilizing serious EKG/MRI tech and
supercomputers.
That’s why we protect free speech.
The 8chan QResearch board had the whole spectrum, from A$$
to Agent, to Autist (Genius Level).
If one could stand it long enough to get a sense of the
free speech battle sphere and the participants there, a
real education could be had.
On so many levels.
I have a better appreciation for why the First Amendment
comes before the Second.
Thank you, Ransomnote, for weighing in!
~Easy
https://twitter.com/LisaMei62/status/1169943326252032000
Lisa Mei got a letter ya’ll.
Guess “we are all mad here” like Alice’s Chesire Cat said.