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60 years into Darwinism, there's one mystery we still can't explain
National Post ^ | 08/30/2019 | Barbara Kay

Posted on 08/30/2019 9:08:48 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: null and void

Ancestry.com = Aunt Susie wanted to be a descendant of royalty so one day she scribbled King and Queen onto her family tree and POOF! so it was.


41 posted on 08/30/2019 11:53:59 AM PDT by bgill
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To: captain_dave
"I think the Theory of Relativity was made popular because, like Darwin's theory of evolution, it could be misused to undermine western civilization and judeo-christian morals and religions."

Relativity was made popular because it's a good scientific theory that explains our observations and has passed every test we've thrown at it. It's right.

"The problem is this is Theoretical Physics. It's all mathematical conjecture."

Relativity is physics. Its effects are measured and used, and our technology depends upon it. It is not conjecture.

42 posted on 08/30/2019 11:56:49 AM PDT by mlo
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“None of whom ever said what you claimed, or would have agreed with it.”

Ah, so Bacon didn’t advocate “experimental philosophy”, and Newton didn’t base his work on Bacon’s ideas, which were then built upon by men like Galileo and Kepler to arrive at the modern formulation of the empirical, experimental based scientific method in the 19th-20th centuries, in opposition to the more inductive and deductive based approaches advocated by others? And the experimental approach didn’t result in by far the vast majority of all scientific advances in the history of mankind? Is that what you want people to believe?


43 posted on 08/30/2019 11:59:50 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: wheat_grinder

If there is a God we had better find out who He is and what He wants.
___________________

First question (above)
A. There is a God and both are answered in the Bible


44 posted on 08/30/2019 12:05:02 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(TG4POTUS))
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To: bgill

Excellent description of Global Warming ‘science’.

Keep adjusting the data until you get the results you want.


45 posted on 08/30/2019 12:12:42 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.(TG4POTUS))
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To: SeekAndFind
The incompatibility of darwinism/macroevolution with

1st law of thermodynamics
+ 2nd law of thermodynamics
+ fossil record
+ genetics
+ information theory
+ direct observations of intelligent design everywhere one looks
+ mathematical odds against accidental protein formation
makes it impossible for me to accept it on faith.

46 posted on 08/30/2019 12:15:55 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: bk1000

If dogs descended from wolves, why are there still wolves?


47 posted on 08/30/2019 12:30:34 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: bk1000
If humans evolved from apes, why are there still apes?

Because humans did not evolve from apes; both "evolved" from a common ancestor. God created it all and set it in motion, the motion we call evolution. He imbued only one species with a soul; that would be us.

48 posted on 08/30/2019 3:20:33 PM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: rjsimmon
"Ancestry.com"

A few years ago I did their test. The results have been odd to say the least. At first I had a plethora ethnic ancestors. But then the results kept getting changed. My native American covers the entire Americas while my African has moved from tropical to Sub-Saharan to north African. And my Hispanic became Iberian. Their results have been very malleable.

49 posted on 08/30/2019 5:33:06 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: SeekAndFind

Does it change the price of your morning coffee, if all of us, never really gave a crap “where we started from”?


50 posted on 08/30/2019 5:35:55 PM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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To: Boogieman
"Ah, so Bacon didn’t advocate “experimental philosophy”, and Newton didn’t base his work on Bacon’s ideas, which were then built upon by men like Galileo and Kepler to arrive at the modern formulation of the empirical, experimental based scientific method in the 19th-20th centuries, in opposition to the more inductive and deductive based approaches advocated by others? And the experimental approach didn’t result in by far the vast majority of all scientific advances in the history of mankind? Is that what you want people to believe?"

Nobody said that experimentation isn't important. That wasn't the point. You implied that science can only be done in a lab. That's flat wrong, and no, none of those guys would have agreed with you.

51 posted on 08/30/2019 8:08:23 PM PDT by mlo
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To: SeekAndFind
He says there is no doubt that Darwin “successfully explained the small adjustments by which an organism adapts to local circumstances” through fur density or beak shape or wing style changes. It’s the big thing Gelernter now believes Darwin got wrong: humans.

Yep - saw a movie once where someone said monkeys developed shorter necks because it made it less likely for a broken neck to occur from a fall - IOW, the ones with longer necks had a higher mortality rate and shorter necks prevailed. That's what happens under Darwinism rather than a Blue whale and a termite springing from the same life form.

52 posted on 08/31/2019 8:19:56 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: trebb

Yes. Darwinism explains MICRO-evolution, or changes within a species.

It has no bearing on MACRO-evolution, that apes, chimps, monkeys, and humans all came from a single ancestor. And, it’s easily (and reasonable) to understand why apes, chimps, monkeys and humans all have similar DNA components - that’s what God choose to work with, so that’s what’s in there.


53 posted on 09/01/2019 8:47:12 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: mlo

“You implied that science can only be done in a lab.”

Well, true experimental verification can only been done through experiment, not through modeling, or simple speculation. That was clearly the implication of the author, and it is perfectly sensible. There is clearly a big difference between “hard” sciences that can verify their hypotheses with actual experiments and “soft” sciences where such verification is impossible. That is why those fields have an altered version of the “scientific method” that they employ, since it is simply impossible for them to use the same method as physics, chemistry, biology, etc.

Now that is all fine, as long as we keep in mind that those fields that use this altered methodology can never confirm their hypotheses with anything close to the degree of certainty that the hard sciences are able to do.


54 posted on 09/03/2019 9:47:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
"Well, true experimental verification can only been done through experiment, not through modeling, or simple speculation. That was clearly the implication of the author, and it is perfectly sensible. There is clearly a big difference between “hard” sciences that can verify their hypotheses with actual experiments and “soft” sciences where such verification is impossible."

"Experimental verification" can only be done through experiment because it's *experimental* verification. Kind of a tautology there. But *verification* does not have to be done through experiments. You can observe the world, make predictions about the world, and verify your predictions about the world by observation. Actual laboratory experiments are wonderful, but not a requirement for science. Even the hard sciences. Some things just don't lend themselves to experiment.

For example, black holes cannot be experimented upon in a lab. But we can observe black holes, measure their effects, test our theories about gravity (from which black holes come) against the world, and create very hard very solid science to cover them.

The same is true of evolution, contrary to the point of he author.

55 posted on 09/03/2019 8:52:33 PM PDT by mlo
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To: mlo

“For example, black holes cannot be experimented upon in a lab. But we can observe black holes, measure their effects, test our theories about gravity (from which black holes come) against the world, and create very hard very solid science to cover them.

The same is true of evolution, contrary to the point of he author.”

But it isn’t. We can’t observe anything on the timescales required to verify many of the predictions of evolutionists, so even that type of verification is beyond our reach. So we can’t construct any real experiments to verify the grandest predictions of Darwin, and we can’t observe them and verify them that way, we are simply asked to believe them absent any verification at all. That’s not science.


56 posted on 09/04/2019 8:12:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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