My credit card company notified me last week that they were assigning a new card and number since there were security issues with some vendor I have done business with. Of course this requires me to go to whatever sites on the web where I shop and register a new card number for future purchases.
When I went to PayPal I was unable to sign in to my account. They seemed to be requesting a new password - with which I complied. I was still unable to log in to my account. I called the Cust Svc phone and asked for help; they stated that I did not have a mobile phone listed with them. I pointed out that I had no mobile phone. {I do have a flip phone, but rarely turn it on, only for family affairs, friends (who have the #) and emergencies; no texting or other fancy stuff.}
They notified me that they send security info to smart phones and that I would have to have one in order to do business with PayPal. I said then to cancel the account. They directed me to a sort of resolution center where we went through the same conversation.
Finally they agreed to cancel my PayPal account and instructed me to simply open a new account; I pointed out that they would likely send security codes to my phone again, to which they said yes they would - meaning it would be a pointless exercise.
So my point is this: are we coming to the point where we cannot buy or sell without a smart phone? Do I have to acquire a smart phone which tracks me wherever I go and keeps records of all my communications and business and personal transactions? Must I bear the costs of such an intrusion?
Old FReepers never die, they just fade away. 👴
You could get a busted-ass smartphone to make PP happy, then store it in your bank security box, check it every couple weeks.
Interesting that they wouldn’t send verification codes to an email address.
Prayers that your health improves, and your faith persists.
Yes. I haven't owned any kind of cell phone since the 90's they are more trouble then they're worth for the most part.
I noticed this first when bitcoin first came out. When it first came out I looked into buying a few bitcoins for $25 each. I asked my wife I could use hers to buy the coins she didn't want me to for security reasons. Which i still think she is right and how they sell it is wrong.
Today I notice many of the social media's use a data phone for security and no other method can be used.
They want to track your travels. It's data mining personal Analytics on you. It's the 4th amendment greatest nightmare.
You could set up a IP phone number and give them that number. Set the ip number to send you an email with the code. Run it through southeast Asia and Uruguay network route and they wont know where you are. Just saying.
No, Bob, Paypal is really bad. It’s always been very poorly designed. I hate to stick up for go ogle but when they need to communicate they offer the choice of text message, email, or voice message. It’s just poor service and a crappy company.
Sorry you have had med/health issues this week.
I use Paypal and I see they are asking for mobile phone number for “security”, I just so “no” or whatever option there is. I don’t have any cel phone, what to speak of smartphone, and if they’re going to require one, that messes me up big time, I’ll have to cancel account. What fiends.
That’s where it’s going.
The Chicago Bears are going paperless -will not allow paper tickets, beginning this year.
If I buy 4 tickets, each ticket bought must be connected to a separate mobile phone number.
If I don’t have a smart phone ? - I can’t get in.
“well, Bob, you’re just an old fart and we don’t want to accommodate old farts in the future anyway..”
love, Paypal.
P.S. you have been approved for a $5000.00 cash advance.
I am right there with you, Bob.
We can be programmed, spied on, tracked, etc. by the bloody things, smartphones.
I routinely give out a fax number I keep in a separate building from my house when absolutely forced to recite a 7 digit number, but most often decline to give one.
Just yesterday I wanted to buy a Microsoft software bundle for kid #3 who starts university in a few weeks. Online you are not permitted to buy the software and get the activation code without saving the credit card number in the Microsoft account one is obligated to have when purchasing the bloody software. Round and round I went with customer service rep, her supervisor, then his supervisor (they were in India)... color me suspicious and non-trusting of the good will involved with their rules for purchase.
Went to the stupid store in the stupid mall today and paid cash just to piss them off.
We are in a world of hurt if Q and POTUS don’t win.
Even my 3 kids are leery of smartphones...progress on the home front.