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To: thinden; bagster

“Probably a bad thing for a prison staff to lose a prisoner prior to trial, eh?”

Let’s ask a SCREW. Mr. Screw, is it a bad thing for a prison staff to lose a prisoner?


1,289 posted on 08/10/2019 8:10:45 AM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: ichabod1; KitJ
Let’s ask a SCREW. Mr. Screw, is it a bad thing for a prison staff to lose a prisoner?

Mos def. They might get a written reprimand or even some suspension, depending on their disciplinary history. Depends on what they failed to do.

Now, a PROPER suicide watch, which they should have had this guy on (short of the full Franky Five Angels treatment), would have been single cell, suicide prevention garment and NOTHING else.

With FULL on video and human 24 hour surveillance.

Now that prison probably has a basic suicide watch policy. Ours called for twice every thirty minutes recorded observation. A sign up sheet, which gave way to electronic recording.

Now routinely, suicide watch would have started out like this, but with psychiatric evaluation and recommendation, items would be slowly authorized to be returned to the inmate. Example, underwear, socks, jumpsuit, sheet, blanket, etc. The psychiatric dude recommends easing restrictions but it has to be (should) be authorized by the watch commander. Again, that's where I come from

(caveat: different systems have their own suicide policies)

Thing is, Epstein was not a routine prisoner. He was VERY special. There is NO WAY he should have been treated routinely. Especially with one 'attempt' under his belt already.

There is NO EXCUSE for him to have ANYTHING in his cell that he could possibly hang himself with.

I joke that he should have gotten the military 24 hour hands on supervision like Franky Five Angels. But the thing is, I'm not joking. That would have been the best and only way to nearly insure he wasn't offed or suicided.

This is unacceptable to me.

For the record. If someone is determined to off themselves, even in jail under watch, they'll think of a way. But proper supervision also insures they will get immediate medical treatment. Apparently, even this didn't happen.

Something went WAY wrong. And it was allowed to.

#LousyScrew

p.s. Only the coroner's office can make the official declaration of death. In that photo, the paramedics were still working on him, which is why his face wasn't covered.

They are trained to keep working on the dead guy until they get an official declaration of death. Paramedics can't make that call, at least where I come from.

I'm curious who took and released the pic. He was still inside the prison medical facility, by the looks of it.

That's the work of a prison or outside medical staff member.

p.p.s.

This is all Epstein should have had in his cell if he was under serious suicide watch. They are almost impossibly to tear up (especially under supervision) and nearly impossible to hang yourself with.


1,317 posted on 08/10/2019 8:37:58 AM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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