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To: bagster

I disagree. The inalienable rights was poetic language that over the centuries has been rendered to magic.

Slavery does, in fact, prove it not true. A slave has no rights unless the master chooses that he should.

We have only those rights we are willing to fight to take hold of and keep for ourselves.

If the rights were God given, then our forefathers wouldn’t have had to fight a war to take them for themselves and put such effort into trying to safe guard them for their posterity.

God gave us life and the hope of salvation.

Liberty, the pursuit of happiness and the freedoms have always been up to us as a people to protect and defend.


1,060 posted on 08/06/2019 9:04:17 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Grimmy; blu
Slavery does, in fact, prove it not true. A slave has no rights unless the master chooses that he should.

I think you got it wrong.

Though enslaved, the people have the rights. They just are denied them and are unable to exercise them.

The RIGHTS remain and forever will. We don't fight for the RIGHTS, but for the ability to exercise them.

An example.

If somebody says we can't party, then we must fight.

For the right.

To party.

We always had the right. Now we have to fight for the right.

This is a philosophical but fundamental and important distinction.

It justifies rebellion and resistance to tyranny.

Ya Ask Your Mom Please But She Still Says No.


1,073 posted on 08/06/2019 9:16:34 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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