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To: ransomnote
Just fooling around with this [ 93DK] business. I thought there might be some connection to the overthrow of the Kingdom of Hawaii in 1893. Yeah, I know--something of a stretch.

I sought some description of the event as the Dissolution of the Kingdom or the Despoilation of the Kingdom but no such luck. Overthrow is the term most used.

I was preapred to stop there when my search resulted in an article from an Hawaiian source about a lawsuit on behalf the "Kingdom" against the Trump Administration.

(I know there is a FReeper following this. Perhaps he'll contribute what he knows.)

The plan is to claim status for native Hawaiians similar to that of American Indians. I haven't followed this effort but I did begin reading the article and found this curious nugget:

This denationalization has resulted in a common misunderstanding that since President Barrack Obama was born in Hawai‘i, he was born within the United States. He was not. He was born in the Hawaiian Kingdom to an American mother and a Kenyan father. As such, he was born an American citizen by parentage—jus sanguinis, but not as a natural born citizen—jus soli.

I truly don't know what to make of it but in light of recent Fuddy/birth certificate comments I thought I'd add it to the pile.

1,292 posted on 07/28/2019 4:34:12 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Oratam

Thank You for that. Interesting! Must dig!


1,299 posted on 07/28/2019 4:43:34 PM PDT by defconw (WWG1WGA! MAGA)
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To: Oratam

Since 0bola wasn’t born in HI and his parents aren’t the public ones, it doesn’t matter about Hawaiian kingdom/not. Anyway HI was a protectorate then or something of that nature. Not a kingdom any more except in some peoples’ minds.

There are very few full Hawaiians and many people are a tiny part Hawaiian. Hawaii is a very corrupt state. Run by very bad people and huge $ interests. It could be so much better.


1,305 posted on 07/28/2019 5:06:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations.)
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To: Oratam

“That June, the citizens of Hawaii voted on a referendum to accept the statehood bill. On August 21, 1959, President Eisenhower signed the official proclamation admitting Hawaii as the 50th state—marking the end of over half a century of work for Hawaiian statehood.


1,373 posted on 07/28/2019 7:23:37 PM PDT by bitt (US intel is there to protect the safety and security of Americans. It is not a political tool.)
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