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1 posted on 07/12/2019 11:12:01 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Western civilization is about progress. Real progress. Naturally “progressives” have to deny this since they are as close to anti-progress as can be done.

And I love “culture appropriation”. If those clowns would quit appropriate western culture, they’ve got the sixth century - and Islam.


2 posted on 07/12/2019 11:15:31 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Let’s be brutal about this. Which race, other than white, has been the driving force behind the worlds progress, mostly good but some bad, in the last 200 years?


3 posted on 07/12/2019 11:17:16 AM PDT by antidemoncrat (yawn)
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Sophistry. To the extent there is a white race, western civ is the race’s creation and continues to power it. The massive flow of non-whites into western culture is a stark reminder of whose civ is superior. To argue otherwise is to buy into the idea that all cultures are equal, a leftist lie.


4 posted on 07/12/2019 11:17:19 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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“To believe such a thing, one must first believe that “races” actually exist, something no scientist worth her or his salt would believe.”

This guy is a moron.

So race doesn’t exist, that’s why we’re bombarded with it 24/7.


5 posted on 07/12/2019 11:17:23 AM PDT by aquila48
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“To believe such a thing, one must first believe that “races” actually exist, something no scientist worth her or his salt would believe.”

That’s not really true. Some scientists don’t believe in it, but that being a majority opinion is pretty limited to the West and seems to be a consequence of WWII, an overreaction to the Nazi race-based atrocities. Go to Russia or India or China or anywhere that they don’t really have a guilt complex from that period of history and opinions among scientists trend much more towards the existence of races in the human species.


7 posted on 07/12/2019 11:22:32 AM PDT by Boogieman
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Yes, exactly.

Augustine’s heritage was mixed...his father was Roman, but Monica was his mother, which sounds like a Berber name—it sure doesn’t look Roman. In any case the “West” in antiquity was really the western Mediterranean, including Western Africa, because northern Europe was still quite pagan.

Islam eventually destroyed the Church in North Africa, but pockets survived into the 1200s-1300s. The Roman explicitly noted the dark skin of the Berber tribes.

Oh, and plus the Kingdom of Kongo was Catholic by the early 1500s, and remained so into the late 1800s.

For most of Western Church history, there were people in it who would today be considered black. And of course in the East, Ethiopia has always been Christian, so this conflation of Christianity with being white is pure balderdash.


8 posted on 07/12/2019 11:23:56 AM PDT by Claud
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“In the end, of course, does it really matter what he looked like? Not in the least.”

Well it kind of does if the author is making the argument that St. Augustine is an example of a non-caucasian who was key to the development of Western civilization. If he actually was of Roman descent (Hippo being a Roman colony after all), then that argument doesn’t make any sense.


10 posted on 07/12/2019 11:26:00 AM PDT by Boogieman
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It’s just easier to incite hatred for Whites than for “Western Civilization.”


11 posted on 07/12/2019 11:30:35 AM PDT by I want the USA back (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. Orwell.)
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I’ve decided that my race is WesternCiv [which includes some of that Hispanic lingo too...]


17 posted on 07/12/2019 11:42:05 AM PDT by Paladin2
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Peak civilization has nothing to do with collectivism.


22 posted on 07/12/2019 12:07:33 PM PDT by PGalt
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To believe such a thing, one must first believe that “races” actually exist, something no scientist worth her or his salt would believe.

This is probably the gayest thing I've read all day. Of course different races exist. And of course most scientists, at least in the relevant fields, would accept this common sense truism. If not, then you have to wonder why they are so scrupulous about making sure that organ and other donors can match recipients - which most definitely depends on race, as well as other factors.

Look, I get it. Cucks don't want people thinking they're "racist," so they spew obvious garbage like the assertion above. But simply acknowledging that, yes, the people on this planet tend to fall into a few fairly well-defined genetic categories that just so happen to essentially be extended, partially inbred families is not the same thing as wearing a Klan outfit. C'mon people, get your heads on straight and be reasonable.

24 posted on 07/12/2019 12:43:44 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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In direct contrast, the real West began, intellectually, with a desire to find unity in all things, despite the particular manifestations of a thing. In terms of thought, the West began with a group of men—soon to be labeled philosophers, lovers of wisdom—in and near the Aegean town of Miletus, the point of intersection between the Occident and the Orient.

Thales, of Miletus, a white man, discovered the integrated mode of thought, which is the West's distinctive principle. Thales was the first man in recorded history to face the bewildering diversity of material objects and then ask: do they all have something in common?

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26 posted on 07/12/2019 1:25:13 PM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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Caucasian is for those from the Caucasus. Scientifically white is the inclusion of all colors and black is the absence of color. Amazing how facts get in the way of progressive global socialist fascist.


27 posted on 07/12/2019 1:36:57 PM PDT by lecram (Marcel L'Heureux)
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“In his own extensive and scholarly work, sociologist Robert Nisbet (1913-1996) claimed that racial categories—in any way we recognize—did not exist in the ancient or medieval West. One might speak of city, family, people, or ethnicity, but skin color rarely if ever had anything to do with it.”

Considering that in the ancient and medieval West it would have been remarkable to travel 50 miles from where you were born this isn’t exactly like today’s experience.


28 posted on 07/12/2019 1:41:12 PM PDT by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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bkmk


32 posted on 07/12/2019 3:11:28 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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bkmk


33 posted on 07/12/2019 3:11:47 PM PDT by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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If you want to defeat a racist, just call him a Nazi. It will make the racist weenie break down and cry. Works every time.


36 posted on 07/12/2019 5:20:52 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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It nevertheless is overwhelmingly the direct creation of white males.


37 posted on 07/12/2019 5:41:49 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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