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To: Grampa Dave; centurion316
What you describe in both posts #32 and #41 is largely, though not completely, true. The original Virginia colonists were overwhelmingly male and fortune seekers; those in New England much less so. Over the years, inhibitions broke down as English settlers pushed toward the frontiers. There was a shortage of women willing to join the push, a gap conveniently filled by native tribes who, at least initially, saw the newcomers as potentially useful to absorb into their society.

Even a Patrician blue blooded family like the Bush clan has native Americans intertwined in their New England roots.

My wife is a distant cousin of baseball star Rogers Hornsby descended from a common half-sister of Pocohantas . . . and more than a century later, we have common Cherokee ancestry which married into settler line on the Georgia/Carolina/Tennessee frontiers. There are remote areas still with sizeable Cherokee populations who escaped the forced removal in 1838 either because (a)they were sufficiently intermarried with settlers or (b)in locations too remote and/or numbers too few to bother with rounding up.

76 posted on 07/04/2019 12:58:31 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys all aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Vigilanteman

What you describe is correct, it’s a matter of degree. Certainly English immigrants intermarried with natives, but every English settlement included women, even early Jamestown. I am a descendant of a family who were on the 2d Supply. Even the Adventurers during the Virginia Company era were interested in establishing wealthly estates that would include English family members.

Spanish and French settlements were almost exclusively male, either military or Adventurers seeking precious metals or jewels. Not very many farmers except among the clergy who were, officially, celebate.


77 posted on 07/04/2019 1:19:52 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Vigilanteman

Most of the first families of Virginia were descended from Pocahontas. Her line was a very fine thread as most of her line was continued by a single person until one finally had several children.


78 posted on 07/04/2019 1:44:26 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Vigilanteman

“My wife is a distant cousin of baseball star Rogers Hornsby descended from a common half-sister of Pocohantas . . . and more than a century later, we have common Cherokee ancestry which married into settler line on the Georgia/Carolina/Tennessee frontiers. There are remote areas still with size able Cherokee populations who escaped the forced removal in 1838 either because (a)they were sufficiently intermarried with settlers or (b)in locations too remote and/or numbers too few to bother with rounding up.”

Does this Cherokee lineage show up in your wife’s DNA?

We supposedly via written documentation have lineage with your wife’s ancestor and her father, uncles and aunts. Yet zero DNA showing any Indian blood in our DNA.


79 posted on 07/04/2019 1:44:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (KAG! Keep America Great! Vote for President Trump in 2020! KAG! Keep America Great, Again!)
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