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To: Mrs. Don-o
I think your understanding of what is happening here is marred by a Hermetic of Suspicion, which automatically excludes things you can't fathom.

You mean this??

"[Marx, Freud, and Nietzsche] share a commitment to unmasking 'the lies and illusions of consciousness';

they are the architects of a distinctively modern style of interpretation that circumvents obvious or self-evident meanings in order to draw out less visible and less flattering truths ... Ricoeur's term has sustained an energetic after-life within religious studies, as well as in philosophy, intellectual history, and related field

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I do believe you've described yourself.

This particular error is not something rampant in the Ancient Churches, all of which have, for nearly 2 millennia, believed in the heavenly Altar, the heavenly Priest, the Lamb "slain before the foundation of the world," and thus realize we must worship in Eternity, in unity with the Angels; and we do.

With regards to the "error"...it wasn't in the NT church.

I will concede it is a later development as witnessed in Roman Catholicism, but not Christianity.

817 posted on 06/06/2019 10:16:46 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
I think you'll have to go back and take another look at the Epistle to the Hebrews, whose human co=author says: "Now faith is confidence in what we hope for and assurance about what we do not see."

The author of Hebrews, and Paul.

Marx, Freud and Nietzche have nothing to do with it.

Tagline.

818 posted on 06/06/2019 10:32:21 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see?" - Romans 8:24)
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To: ealgeone
Here's something by a person with an Evangelical background which may be of interest to you.

St. Ignatius of Antioch: A Martyr's Love for the Eucharist

Go ahead, it won't bite you. :o)

A few sample paragaphs:

"I had always believed early Christianity was probably a lot like my Evangelical Christianity and that Catholic beliefs in Church authority and transubstantiation were later inventions.

"But, very quickly, I saw that St. Ignatius not only accepted these two points of doctrine but that he believed passionately in their essential role in the life of the Christian.

"Growing up Baptist, we’d always spoken of communion as “the Lord’s Supper,” simply a memorial where we remembered Jesus’ death, burial, and resurrection. Communion was, at most, a symbol. Yet St. Ignatius, in his Letter to the Ephesians, describes the Eucharist as “the medicine of immortality, the antidote against death, and everlasting life in Jesus Christ.”<

"At first, I guessed that Ignatius was speaking metaphorically and that something was being lost in translation. But, in his Letter to the Romans, he emphasizes the point again, declaring, “Bread of God is what I desire; that is, the Flesh of Jesus Christ, who was of the seed of David; and for my drink I desire His Blood, that is; incorruptible love.”

"I know these passages aren’t proof enough to convince all Protestants of the truth of Transubstantiation. And I certainly wasn’t convinced yet either. However, the description caught me so off guard that I found myself reevaluating what communion might mean..."


820 posted on 06/06/2019 10:46:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Hope that is seen is no hope at all. Who hopes for what he can already see?" - Romans 8:24)
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