I never said that the Catholic liturgy is identical to what was celebrated by St. Justin, Martyr or any of our ancient role models in Antioch, Jerusalem, Rome or Alexandria. That would be an incredibly stupid thing for me to say,--- yes, both incredible and stupid.
They provided us with the essential structure of the Liturgy, which was handed down to them from the Apostles.
You might try reading Joseph Ratzinger's "The Spirit of the Liturgy" .
Your incredulity is like that of another FReeper who argued to me, quite recently, that an early embryo is not a "person" because it
I pointed out that an early embryo has ALL the essential characteristics of a human being at that stage, and that a human at 18 months, 18 years, or 80 years still has those essential characteristics.
Although she claimed to have some science background, she apparently lacked an awareness of the developmental stages in the history of a living entity.
Oh, I think it's been understood.
I never said that the Catholic liturgy is identical to what was celebrated by St. Justin, Martyr or any of our ancient role models in Antioch, Jerusalem, Rome or Alexandria. That would be an incredibly stupid thing for me to say,--- yes, both incredible and stupid.
Yet on these very forums, Roman Catholics have told us, you included IIRC, that Roman Catholicism is doing only what the Apostles handed down....your "big 'T' Tradition". No deviation. Nothing new.
A simple exercise as I've shown on just responding to a couple of your "Traditions" shows this is not the case.
This is why Rome has had to come up with the "development of doctrine" to explain why Rome has changed from the days of the Apostles.
Bottom line is Rome has taken the two places where Paul talks about tradition and has used that as a blank check to create pretty much what they want to.
I recall an Ethics course in college which contained the insane teaching/beliefs of Peter Singer who as I recall, headed the Princeton Ethics department. Peter Singer is a lauded so-called ethics teacher/writer/theorist known around the world. Among his many insane notions, this man posited that we are not fully human until we reach the age of self-awareness (2,3,4 years of age) - and until that time we are no better than a mature pig. As such, parents should be able to dispose of their unwanted children up until they reach the age of self-awareness.
Hitler was able to murder millions of Jews and other undesirables because they were "sub-human". My point is that people will believe anything, distort, lie and deceive to justify their personal beliefs or their goals. I'm sorry to say that I am not surprised by the depravity and blindness we see in men and women today.
After requesting I do the work of posting a definition of Sola Scriptura, I never heard back from you - surprisingly.
“When Jesus saw them, He said, “Go, show yourselves to the priests.” And as they were on their way, they were cleansed. When one of them saw that he was healed, he came back, praising God in a loud voice. He fell facedown at Jesus’ feet in thanksgiving to Him—and he was a Samaritan.”
Not a Samaritan?