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To: metmom
Those who are born of the Spirit through faith WANT to please God. They don’t need to be compelled to obey.

So, no murder or adultery and other nastiness

that seem to come along with human nature then?

Great, I don't see where it is that we disagree.

I am sorry that you think parts of my Catholic faith are nonsense,

there is no one compelling me into compliance,

I WANT to please God too,

what you might consider "outside constraints"

I view as opportunities for me to receive God's Grace more fully.

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538 posted on 06/03/2019 3:29:42 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: infool7
It's not *coming a long way with human nature*.

Human nature cannot be reformed. Those in the flesh cannot please God. The only thing to do with the human nature is crucify it.

When one is born again, he's given a NEW nature, not just a fixed up old nature. The new nature is the only reason that we want to obey and please God because it's not in the cards for the flesh nature.

Galatians 5:19-21 The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.

567 posted on 06/03/2019 6:38:09 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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