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The Chicken-and-Egg Problem is Everywhere in Biology
The Stream ^ | May 6, 2019 | Marcos Eberlin

Posted on 05/07/2019 7:14:32 AM PDT by Heartlander

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1 posted on 05/07/2019 7:14:32 AM PDT by Heartlander
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To: Heartlander

And the proof to the bio genesis theory? It only LOOKS like intelligent design, it is really randomness and time.


2 posted on 05/07/2019 7:17:05 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Heartlander

Read once on a kiosk:

“We ordered a chicken and an egg on Amazon. We’ll let you know.”


3 posted on 05/07/2019 7:17:18 AM PDT by ConservativeWarrior (Fall down 7 times, stand up 8. - Japanese proverb)
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To: Heartlander

I used to be blind but now I see.


4 posted on 05/07/2019 7:23:57 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Prov 24: Do not fret because of evildoers. Do not associate with those given to change.)
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To: Heartlander

This is very similar to the irreducible complexity argument.


5 posted on 05/07/2019 7:24:04 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

From a zoologists point of view...

Reptiles-Dinosaurs laid eggs long before the chicken evolved.

Eggs came before the chicken.

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6 posted on 05/07/2019 7:31:22 AM PDT by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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To: Heartlander

Leviticus 11:19 & v 30: bird and reptile share same name in Biblical Hebrew. And many reptiles are egg layers.


7 posted on 05/07/2019 7:32:11 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Heartlander

Darwin’s work happened at a time when the cell was still considered simple by many. They were wrong. But before the complexity of the cell started to really work it’s way into the public’s awareness a whole slew of people had latched onto evolution as a way to advance other interests, secularization and dechristianization in particular. These other reasons to believe don’t demand evolution be anything but taught as fact, to set up in the minds of kids (and then adults) that life doesn’t need a designer, the Lord.

It is no coincidence that some of these same secularists also started some of the worst lies about Islam — such as Islam preserved knowledge while Christians slid backwards into ignorance ... never mentioning that Muslim hoards destroyed library after library or how their wars of conquest and piracy so disrupted commerce and society that they caused the dark ages.


8 posted on 05/07/2019 7:44:43 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Heartlander
No problem in scripture, though.

God created creatures, not eggs.

And Adam and Eve never went through puberty.

I guess them to have been created in the 33 year old area of age as WE understand age.

Guys seem to get out of the barroom around that age and man up to be husbands and fathers.

9 posted on 05/07/2019 7:44:44 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true)
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To: GRRRRR

what does that have to do with chickens? And which came first the reptile or the egg?


10 posted on 05/07/2019 8:14:20 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: onedoug

The question remains.

How can there be an egg without a creature to lay it, and how can there be a creature that lays eggs without an egg in which the creature incubates?


11 posted on 05/07/2019 8:21:26 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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12 posted on 05/07/2019 8:23:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: Westbrook
How can there be an egg without a creature to lay it, and how can there be a creature that lays eggs without an egg in which the creature incubates?

Single-celled organisms reproduce by fission. Simple multi-celled organisms can reproduce by budding. Fish eggs do not have hard shells nor air pockets. At each level, as organisms get more complex, so do their reproductive mechanisms.

13 posted on 05/07/2019 8:28:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities." -- Voltaire)
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To: GRRRRR

Eggs came before the chicken.

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Next up!

If a hen and a half can lay an egg and a half in a day and a half.
The farmer likes two eggs each morning for breakfast.

How many hens needed to produce one dozen eggs in six days?


14 posted on 05/07/2019 8:31:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Heartlander

God started it all rolling, with single cell critters that split into two to reproduce. Somewhere along the way He decided one of them would excrete a piece of itself instead of splitting to create the new organism. When He decided they should leave the water and occupy the land, He tried shells to stabilize the moist contents. Then He made some in which the egg hatched and was nurtured within the body of the adult.

He did good.


15 posted on 05/07/2019 8:43:49 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Westbrook

I would guess that not since all reptiles lay eggs, there might seem an “evolutionary” process whereby most currently do, whereas birds, later in this process, all do.

In short though, it’s a mystery. Yet I believe God wants us to pursue and understand His creation to whatever extent that we ultimately may.


16 posted on 05/07/2019 8:49:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: PapaBear3625

And that single cell fission takes an incredibly complex set of genetic instructions, and processes, to occur. Where did that come from? You can push the argument back but you can’t eliminate (or answer) it.


17 posted on 05/07/2019 8:49:39 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: GRRRRR
Reptiles-Dinosaurs laid eggs long before the chicken evolved.

True. And so did insects and fish.

18 posted on 05/07/2019 8:53:26 AM PDT by zot
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To: JimRed

He did good.


I don’t know. My dog makes his own vitamin C and I can’t.
Our backs seem designed to give us problems and on a planet covered almost entirely in water, we don’t have gills. God seems to be an underachiever.


19 posted on 05/07/2019 8:54:26 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: PapaBear3625

Where does the new information come from, and how is it merged into the code for the correct expression of the required proteins?


20 posted on 05/07/2019 9:08:07 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it)
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