[Georgia Girl 2]

Call me back when an F-35 has a successful sortie and shoots down a MIG. I don’t trust that platform for chit.

[PIF]

Call me back when an F-35 has a successful sortie and shoots down a MIG. I don’t trust that platform for chit.

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What about a MiG-29 or a SU-35 or a SU-57? That would be quite a feat for a plane not designed for air superiority, wouldn’t it. The F-35 is meant to be a bomb truck - all other missions are just tacked on.

[Tallguy]

You could be waiting a long time. A2A combat is largely a thing of the past. Aircraft are destroyed on the ground, wholesale. Much more effective than taking out 1 or 2 “retail” since aircraft spend most of their time on the ground anyway.

Even the F-15 only has around 100 A2A kills in almost 40 years of service. Most of those are Israeli. The rest are Gulf War with a few of those buy the Saudis. So there you have a huge investment in a pure air-to-air killer and you have what?

Not saying that it’s a capability that we want to give up, but the game has changed. It has been changing.

[Joe Boucher]

Still, better than my RV-6A