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To: 4Zoltan

Not to start to call you a liar, but where did you get the info about any identification of the hospital called what it is on the cert prior to the late 70’s? Way too many sources don’t say that:

http://www.ini-world-report.org/2014/05/17/troubling-items-in-obama-birth-certificate/

http://giveusliberty1776.blogspot.com/2011/04/breakingthe-hospital-name-is-wrong.html

And other sites I have seen like the actual site of the hospital we are discussing I already sent you.

But let’s take another look at the cert.

The independent Republic of Kenya was formed in 1964. It was ruled as a de facto one-party state by the Kenya African National Union (KANU), led by Jomo Kenyatta during 1963 to 1978. If you look at the cert released by the white house, it displays Kenya, East Africa as the birthplace of his father.

https://www.slideshare.net/whitehouse/birth-certificatelongform

At the time of senior Obama’s birth the area was known as the Kenyan Colony and under British control. But the locals took the area as stated above two years after our president Obama was born. That’s the reason he is a dual citizenship to the British and they have a sealed copy of his cert in their records rather than with Kenya. And if Obama’s father had been born 25 years before him, it can not identify on the cert that he was born in Kenya. Another stupid mistake when the cert was made. The Colony and Protectorate of Kenya was part of the British Empire in Africa from 1920 until 1963. It was established when the former East Africa Protectorate was transformed into a British Crown colony in 1920. Technically, the ‘Colony of Kenya’ referred to the interior lands, while a 16 km (10 mi) coastal strip (nominally on lease from the Sultan of Zanzibar) was the ‘Protectorate of Kenya’ but the two were controlled as a single administrative unit. The colony came to an end in 1963 when a black majority government was elected for the first time and eventually declared independence as Kenya. Again, two years after Obama’s birth.

Also, if you look at the signature of the person attending, the doctor block is not checked, it’s smeared like crazy. Maybe you can help me here. I can’t find any reference to the doctor, using any number of names it may be, on file anywhere in Hawaii. Who is he? It appears to be “David A. Smilan”,(edited to add) but others read it as “David A. Sinclair” although the last name is not easy to read. This appears to be in conflict with Snopes which posted a January, 2009 statement by a teacher in Hawaii, who claimed to recall a 1961 conversation with the obstetrician who delivered Obama, whom she said was Dr. Rodney T. West, who died in February, 2008, age 98. She said she remembered West telling her on August 4, 1961 that “today” a baby named Barack Hussein Obama had been born to a mother named Stanley Ann Dunham and a father who was the first African student at the University of Hawaii. So why was the cert signed by the wrong doctor with a witness claiming otherwise? The cert sucks at best. And Obama should have been investigated before the election but the liberal judges bailed him out on that.

rwood


70 posted on 05/04/2019 9:14:28 AM PDT by Redwood71
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To: Redwood71

World Net Daily posted a Hawaiian birth certificate from 1959.

https://www.wnd.com/2011/05/298537/

And there are the Nordyke twins 1961 Hawaiian birth certificates

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2009/Jul/28/ln/hawaii907280345.html

There is this April 1955 “Obstetrics in Hawaii” article:

https://journals.lww.com/greenjournal/Citation/1955/04000/Obstetrics_in_Hawaii__Report_on_seven_years_.27.aspx

And there is this 1934 lawsuit:

https://www.leagle.com/decision/193486370f2d7931573

Kenya was called Kenya back in the 1920s and 30s.

As can be seen by the Kenya Gazette and this 1935 book on Kenya - “White man’s country: Lord Delamere and the making of Kenya”

https://www.nature.com/articles/136161a0

1935 article on Kenya - “Human Remains from Kanam and Kanjera, Kenya Colony”

https://www.nature.com/articles/135371a0

1935 The Lancet medical journal article on the “MALIGNANT DISEASE IN THE NATIVES OF KENYA”

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(00)47629-4/fulltext

Doctor David Sinclair is the name and his family verified the signature is his.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160323024838/http://www.mauinews.com/page/content.detail/id/548843/Family-of-doctor-who-delivered-Obama—blown-away——honored-.html?nav=5031

The story of Dr. West does not say that he was the attending physician.


71 posted on 05/04/2019 9:47:45 AM PDT by 4Zoltan
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