The toll on society these minions discuss is far greater in the example of their own continued existence on that very society. The crutch of the burden on the state they rely on as part of their corruption of all that is decent is in and of itself a foil because that was the piper that led people down this path in the first place.
Surely, though, the brave new world of horrors these people espouse will come to pass as long as we sit around reasonably discussing this bull**** while they structure liberties and the state to the point said discussion is no longer relevant and their wishes become edicts...
you said it!!
and good to see you again!