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Federal Judge Rules Male-only Draft Unconstitutional
February 24, 2019

Posted on 02/24/2019 6:59:30 AM PST by SMGFan

Unfortunately only USAToday & a website quoting USA Today have reported this story so far.


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To: southern rock

Whatever ... ad hominems are not permitted here.

Thanks in advance


41 posted on 02/24/2019 8:06:27 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF
Female pregnancies in the military is a major problem that is never discussed or even brought up.

A week into basic training the woman discovers she's pregnant. What then?

A week after deployment, a woman discovers she's pregnant. What then?

A month pregnant female sailor gets orders to ship out. What then?

A female soldier deployed to a war zone gets pregnant. What then?

Pregnancies with enlisted females is one thing but it's opening a barrel full of worms if they are draftees who don't want to be in the military in the first place......

42 posted on 02/24/2019 8:08:43 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (ui)
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To: PIF

Amazing this needs to be explained. Unfortunately we have a society where a large number of women don’t want to be women.


43 posted on 02/24/2019 8:10:40 AM PST by Phillyred
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To: PIF
where will the next generation of men and women come from - a recipe for national suicide by depopulation

We don't need a war to do that - we are already doing it voluntarily.

44 posted on 02/24/2019 8:18:11 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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To: southern rock
but not young women’s lives?

Because women carry the next generation. I know that young women these days don't want to be reminded that they are the only people who can be mothers. And, we need mothers to keep the population of this society going. If not, all we will have are third world immigrants. Do you think we can keep our country, as we have known it, with just that population giving birth? We are already seeing the demise of our Republic, leftist step by leftist step.

There are days when I fear it is already too late.

45 posted on 02/24/2019 8:23:30 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: PIF

What ad hominem? So you are considering “white knight” and “tradcon” an ad hominem? Pretty weak. I mean, that is an accurate description of your actual position on this. And you did try to shame all men who are not in agreement with your position.


46 posted on 02/24/2019 8:23:55 AM PST by southern rock
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To: LibertarianLiz

And men father the next generation. If a woman’s life is valuable, then a man’s life is valuable. If a man is disposable than a woman is disposable. End of story.


47 posted on 02/24/2019 8:26:06 AM PST by southern rock
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To: SMGFan
During World War II over 16 million Americans served in the United States Military. 90% of them never heard a shot fired in anger. They were in support positions that got the guns and the bullets, bread butter etc. to the front line soldiers.

During the Clinton Administration the size of the active duty US Military was cut by more than 50 percent to less than 10 active combat divisions. The support positions were eliminated and were to be contracted out during times of conflict. When that time came during the first Gulf war, the left went ape about contract fraud and blamed Republicans for companies like Haliburton, etc. on the News every night.

The entire infrastructure to provide combat support and the training of military personnel for those support roles disappeared. Even Airplane maintenance is contracted out and supervised by Military Personnel. Significant numbers of people received their civilian, non-college, trade and craft skills training from the military. That supply of a trained, disciplined and matured labor force is for the most part gone now.

I believe there should be two branches of the military.
One branch entirely voluntary and for the combat MOS’s (jobs); the other branches should be combat support related.

The draft, if it becomes necessary and regardless of gender, should apply to the combat support branches. An individual who is drafted should be given a choice to switch to combat arms if they so choose. Obviously an individual could voluntarily join the Military for non combat MOS’s.

In real emergencies it may become necessary to force individuals who are capable into the combat arms but only when absolutely necessary.

A draft based combat support branch should come back with heavy emphasis on dual use job skills and training in the event of an emergency. The draftee should have a four or five year obligation similar to the time required for a college degree with tuition support upon honorable discharge. The attendance of college and college level courses could occur concurrently with exceptional service and for those who are capable. Remedial classes should exist for those who were passed along in the public schools.

Too many kids are going to college on federal loans who have no business being there. I believe this was done on purpose, by Democrats, to undermine the US - both militarily and economically in the job market with generations of uneducated, ineducable and unemployable yout’s.

Less than one half of one percent of American Citizens have had any affiliation with the US Military for decades.

The benefits from a sense of National Unity that occurs from young people, from all over the country meeting other young adults from all over the country cannot be underestimated.

48 posted on 02/24/2019 8:27:33 AM PST by lurked_for_a_decade (Imagination is more important than knowledge! ( e_uid == 0 ) != ( e_uid = 0 ). I Read kernel code.)
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To: southern rock
But a man does not have a child growing within him for 9 months, goes thru labor to give birth, and then is a primary care giver. Also, in my case and that of many others, is the childs source of nutrition for the first months of their lives.

Only the woman has the capability of housing and growing a brand new, unique human being. It is our super power.

49 posted on 02/24/2019 8:31:50 AM PST by LibertarianLiz
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To: LibertarianLiz

So what you’re actually saying, while couching it in some sort of traditionalist family values camouflage, is that you want vagina privilege. This is actually just typical misandric feminism.
No war or death for you. You have a vagina pass. Got it. Well, men are not buying it anymore.


50 posted on 02/24/2019 8:38:08 AM PST by southern rock
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

“command random 20 year-old girls in combat”

You’d get laid a lot but they’re fighting skills would be worthless.


51 posted on 02/24/2019 8:39:00 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: PIF

“because men do not give birth?”

Neither do a lot of women these days.


52 posted on 02/24/2019 8:40:33 AM PST by Lurker51
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To: SMGFan

This is actually the most pivotal issue regarding liberalism.

If the supreme court rules only men must fight, they are declaring there are differences between the sexes and it stand every prior liberal court decision on it head.

If the declare there are no differences, then women get drafted and businesses no longer must adhere to confusing gender-based rules and regulations.


53 posted on 02/24/2019 8:41:20 AM PST by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and America!.)
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To: kearnyirish2

Exactly.. Make the Leftist FemmeNazi Cowards register as well. GOOD!


54 posted on 02/24/2019 8:51:55 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: VietVet

It works for Israel, it should work for us.


55 posted on 02/24/2019 8:55:23 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: TheZMan

Make that under 50!


56 posted on 02/24/2019 8:56:51 AM PST by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("There is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and pursue it steadily." -GW)
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To: 9YearLurker

They admit they are at 59%; for all intents and purposes they are at 60%. If guys go to college, they have to listen to how evil they are (I have sons that have gone).

Men ARE “going their own way”, and the ladies don’t like having to fill their shoes...


57 posted on 02/24/2019 8:57:30 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Freedom4US

Well put!

Our troops can go from fighting them over there to feeding and housing them with their tax dollars here...


58 posted on 02/24/2019 8:58:19 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: DivineMomentsOfTruth

After the BS in Vietnam (where our leaders later admitted grave mistakes, which resulted in killing 60,000 Americans and over a million Vietnamese), nobody would even show up if they had a draft today.

The leaders who later admitted those mistakes were war criminals, nothing less.


59 posted on 02/24/2019 8:59:42 AM PST by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Badboo

Babies don’t shoot back.


60 posted on 02/24/2019 9:00:33 AM PST by 353FMG
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