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To: SunkenCiv
Fascinating info! Thanks for posting this. I wonder how they are able to match the X-ray signature of the ceramics to the pottery sites in China. Have they stored the data from many Chinese sites just for such matching purposes?

The article says "...the shipwreck tells us that there were huge trade networks in the 12th and 13th centuries,” says Field Museum MacArthur Curator of Anthropology and study co-author Gary Feinman. “We’re taught to associate vast trade networks with Europeans like Magellan and Marco Polo, but Europeans weren’t a big part of this network that went from Asia to Africa. Globalization isn’t just a recent phenomenon—it’s not just Eurocentric, not just tied to modern capitalism. The ancient world was more interconnected than a lot of people thought.”

Mr. Feinman makes an interesting point about how we were taught about Marco Polo and the Silk Road, but not about the wider trade network run by Eastern peoples. The following map shows the trade routes that existed in the first century AD.

The network was used regularly from 130 BC, when the Han officially opened trade with the west, to 1453 AD, when the Ottoman Empire boycotted trade with the west and closed the routes. That happened to coincide with the explosion of western explorers and seafarers.

There's more information about this shipwreck at 12th-Century Shipwreck Came with Handy 'Made in China' Tag. It says the ruling dynasty of southern China was expanding sea trade routes and focused on sea trade. The wreck contained ceramics, some 200 tons of cast-iron objects, aromatic resin and elephant tusks.

Here's an interesting photo of the ceramics as found on the sea floor before restoration. Just imagine the painstaking work to restore those ceramics!


6 posted on 02/11/2019 8:18:55 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

but not about the wider trade network run by Eastern peoples.
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The whole point of seeking a direct route to Asia by traveling West, was because of taxes, and tolls charge by Muslim areas, as good traveled West on the trade route.

I was taught this over 50 years ago.

Columbus originally wanted to help free Constantinople, which had recently been conquered by the Ottomans. Instead he decided to travel West with the idea of profiting from direct trade.


7 posted on 02/11/2019 8:25:26 PM PST by Yulee
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
The interest in trade with the Roman Empire did indeed get fired up during the Han Dynasty, thanks to a Roman trading vessel that arrived in China and was recorded in the (luckily surviving) Han court records (there's an accurate transliteration of the correct emperor, Marcus Aurelius, AD 161 to 180). The Romans knew about the orangutan, enjoyed pepper, and imported so much nice pottery from India, some enterprising Roman brought a raft of Dravidian pottery workers over to a nice quiet spot on the Red Sea, in order to simplify the importing process. Overland trade in Asia is, of course, prehistoric, and by 2000 BC Harappan bead work, lapis lazuli from what is now Afghanistan, and obsidian mostly from Anatolia was moving great distances in trade.

11 posted on 02/11/2019 9:19:05 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Rethinking silk’s origins
Nature | 17 Feb 2009 | Philip Ball
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18 posted on 02/16/2019 12:38:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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