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Something Is Not Quite Right In the Universe, Ultraprecise New Measurement Reveals
Space.com ^ | February 9, 2019 | Mara Johnson-Groh, Live Science Contributor

Posted on 02/09/2019 9:49:05 AM PST by ETL

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To: HangnJudge

One of my fave images to offer up when somebody is going on way, way too much and too long about something!

I’ve learned to just give up at a certain point - most things don’t really matter what anybody thinks about them or it’s something nobody can realistically change. And sometimes people just can’t be disabused of a wrong notion.


21 posted on 02/09/2019 10:21:51 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: ETL

22 posted on 02/09/2019 10:22:08 AM PST by Bratch (IF YOU HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT CITIZENS, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE SELFISH IGNORANT LEADERS-George Carlin)
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Are they certain we are not an atom in the toenail of a gigantic cow?


23 posted on 02/09/2019 10:24:05 AM PST by Clutch Martin (The trouble ain't that there is too many fools, but that the lightning ain't distributed right.)
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To: Moonman62

You mean to imply this might be a case where the Universe is just doing what a Universe does instead of some guy being wrong about how he thinks it should act?
HERESY!! When global warming turns the earth into a fireball you’ll be burned at the stake - or wherever you are - Gaia will get you!!


24 posted on 02/09/2019 10:26:05 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Clutch Martin

“Are they certain we are not an atom in the toenail of a gigantic cow?”

Galactic gigantic cow flatulence causes gigantic galactic warming.


25 posted on 02/09/2019 10:28:09 AM PST by LouieFisk
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To: ETL


I went to a guest lecture from a professional astronomer
thirty years ago and after it was over, went up to him and asked about M51A,
the Whirlpool Galaxy.  It seems to obviously be connected
to the smaller galaxy, M51B.  Radio astronomy has
determined there is a connection between the two
galaxies and both are about 25 million light years away.

Here's the kicker.  They have radically different red shifts.
M51B should be no where near M51A.

In my naivete, I asked the astronomer about the
discrepancy.  His face reddened and he told me
they're weren't about to throw away, I forget his
exact words, all their research based on one anomaly.

I have since learned that an astronomer named Arp
argued that redshift was not due to Hubble expansion
or physical movement of the objects, but must have a
non-cosmological or "intrinsic" origin.

Follow up studies have shown  that Arp's hypothesis
cannot be discarded easily.

Time will tell.

26 posted on 02/09/2019 10:30:53 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: ETL

Turbo charger? Torque converter? Nitrous oxide injector?


28 posted on 02/09/2019 10:33:04 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: ETL

The Universe has adopted a policy of multiculturalism and diversity which in order to work requires ignoring the laws of physics. This is not going to end well.


29 posted on 02/09/2019 10:33:11 AM PST by centurion316
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To: ETL

Truly, pick the discipline:

The more science learns, he less it knows...


30 posted on 02/09/2019 10:33:16 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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To: ETL
Sorry, it's my fault. Let me just dial this back a bit...


31 posted on 02/09/2019 10:36:15 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: ETL
"We're gonna need a bigger universe."


32 posted on 02/09/2019 10:40:46 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: sparklite2

Good story!

Well, if we ARE expanding at an increasing rate, then maybe all the jillion’s of suns that are converting matter into energy are pushing on the accelerator?

Either that or there is a decimal point wondering the universe.

Or, maybe, they used metric instead of English measurements??


33 posted on 02/09/2019 10:41:03 AM PST by GRRRRR (Make America Greater Than Ever Before!)
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To: ETL

This explains everything.
I’m not cutting boards too short.
I’m cutting them for the wrong universe.


34 posted on 02/09/2019 10:41:30 AM PST by CrazyIvan (A gentleman arms himself for the protection of others.)
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To: Steely Tom
Does that mean that the theory is not Settled Science?

Only GoreBull Warming is, not doubt about it, case closed, "settled science".

35 posted on 02/09/2019 10:44:36 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Bratch

That pretty much sums it up.

And there apparently are many ‘miracles’ along the way, both on the large and small scales.


36 posted on 02/09/2019 10:47:39 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL
That means that either the LCDM model is wrong or the measurements of expansion rate are.

Just change the measurements and call anyone who doesn't accept the LCDM a denier.

38 posted on 02/09/2019 10:50:10 AM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: gov_bean_ counter
Truly, pick the discipline: The more science learns, the less it knows...

Or the more *new* mysterious arise.

39 posted on 02/09/2019 10:50:35 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: GRRRRR

There is an online course from Yale, I think it is, of astrophysics for non-science majors. If you ever get the chance, take it. The lecturer is great and puts stuff in terms you can remember without all the annoying math. Can’t recommend it enough.


40 posted on 02/09/2019 10:50:49 AM PST by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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