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To: Lakeside Granny; Jane Long; Rusty0604; Spunky; pax_et_bonum; hoosiermama; JudyinCanada; ...
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how about we start in two weeks, on February 15th, a Saturday? I guess the question is do we want to start reading then or start discussing then. Some of you I know won't have your books by then. But LG might have to return shortly after.

unfortunately each of the books shown don't have the same number of pages, so we won't be able to discuss using page numbers unless we all have the same book. The one on the left is the older version, the one with the 1984 in red. That book has 362 pages.

the first chapter is 82 pages. I don't recommend we do a chapter a week is specially since there are only three chapters! But each chapter is broken down into subchapters, delineated by Roman numeral numerals. Sub chapter 6 in the first chapter ends on page 55, so is 50 pages since the book starts on page 5. This is all in the older book, the one on the left.

how about we do about 50 pages each time and then we can end in six to seven weeks?

can everyone let me know which book you have? Or there may actually be a third one out there! Anyway if everyone has the newer one then that's the one I will read also. And then we can talk about page numbers.
1,607 posted on 02/02/2019 11:02:10 AM PST by CottonBall (We are not represented, we are ruled.)
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To: CottonBall

I’m back....

My book has 256 pages, very small print, so going by # of pages won’t probably work for me.

But whatever is best for the most I will be happy to go along with.

This is an old Signet book that cost $.60 new, I kid you not.


1,613 posted on 02/02/2019 11:20:15 AM PST by Lakeside Granny ( BUILD THE WALL AND CRIME WILL FALL!!)
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To: CottonBall

Who is the publisher for the one on the left?


1,618 posted on 02/02/2019 11:39:54 AM PST by Rusty0604
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To: CottonBall; Lakeside Granny; Jane Long; Rusty0604; Spunky; pax_et_bonum; hoosiermama; ...

Unfolding right in front of our eyes today is the world of Big Brother and Thought Control portrayed by George Orwell in his classic book 1984.

While at Eton, Orwell was taught French by Aldous Huxley, it was here they became life long friends. Huxley, who was also the author of another interesting book, ‘Brave New World’, introduced Orwell to the Fabian society. The Fabian society is a secret society at its core, although anyone can join, like all of these societies there are many levels of initiation (such as with the Freemasons), meaning the majority of people involved in the organisation have no idea of the true agenda and carry out their roles creating a front for the fraud at the heart of the organisation. The Fabian Society has been instrumental in the global fascist agenda.

The significance in the title of Orwell’s book is the fact that 1984 is the centenary year of the Fabian society, perhaps just another tidy coincidence but it is speculated that he became disillusioned with the society and 1984 was written not as fiction but an expose of the knowledge of the Fabian agenda. And that would then explain why the Fabian Society reportedly control the copyright of ‘1984’ until at least 2025, they control the rights to his estate and they own and have sealed Orwell’s archives.

It would also explain how Orwell could write a book in 1948 telling in great detail how the mass population could be so easily controlled by the relative few elite.

At some point I would like to write about the book in more detail and make some very interesting comparisons, for now here is a taste;

“Do you begin to see, then, what kind of world we are creating? It is the exact opposite of the stupid hedonistic Utopias that the old reformers imagined. A world of fear and treachery and torment, a world of trampling and being trampled upon, a world which will grown not less but more merciless as it refines itself. Progress in our world will be progress toward more pain. The old civilizations claimed that they were founded on love or justice. Ours is founded upon hatred. In our world there will be no emotions except fear, rage, triumph, and self-abasement. Everything else we shall destroy - everything. Already we are breaking down the habits of thought which have survived from before the Revolution. We have cut the links between man and man, and between man and woman. No one dares trust a wife or a child or a friend any longer. But in the future there will be no wives and no friends. Children will be taken from their mothers at birth, as one takes eggs from a hen. The sex instinct will be eradicated. Procreation will be an annual formality like the renewal of a ration card. We shall abolish the orgasm. Our Neurologists are at work upon it now. There will be no loyalty except loyalty towards the Party. There will be no love, except the love of Big Brother. There will be no laughter, except the laugh of triumph over a defeated enemy. There will be no art, no literature, no science. When we are omnipotent we shall have no more need of science. There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness. There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of the process of life. All competing pleasures will be destroyed. But always - do not forget this Winston - always there will be the intoxication of power, constantly increasing and constantly growing subtler. Always at every moment there will be the thrill of victory, the sensation of trampling on an enemy who is helpless. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - for ever.”

Ultimately, when you start to understand the nature of the global conspiracy you see that how this global manipulation actually works, the complexities of it all, the intricate details, they do not matter... The intricate details may be crucial to understanding what is going on in the world but ultimately when you understand the real nature of this reality they are meaningless. We are trapped in a what I and others call a manipulation of the five senses. See my article Consciousness. Its not all as complicated as it sounds, when you start to read into it things, it all becomes obvious when you start connecting the dots and when you do begin to understand the conspiracy more you look around wondering why the hell everyone is so blind to the truth that is staring them in the face.

Sadly Ignorance is bliss. We are systematically indoctrinated to believe certain dogmas or to embrace rigid belief systems such as Religions or mainstream science. The apparent divisions between us of race, age, sex, culture, religion, job and income bracket etc are mere illusions. Many people simply cannot deal with information which challenges their belief system. People either don’t want to hear it, or just can’t accept it. This is what researcher David Icke describes as Cognitive dissonance, it mostly takes the form of a belief contradicted by experience, information or behaviour. In 1984, Orwell describes cognitive dissonance to a tee, he calls it, rather appropriately, doublethink - this is exactly how the majority of humanity has remained in servitude for thousands of years. Most people actually fight to protect their own belief system, dismissing information that challenges it without further investigation, these are the people with their heads in the sand. If you have your head in the sand you cannot see what is going on right in front of your very own eyes. If you get off your knees and take a look at what is going on, then you can start to change it. Remember - We, the people, are the majority, we have more power than we are made to believe. That is why this conspiracy has been operating covertly for so many thousands of years, if the elite wanted to go from A-Z straight away we would all see what was going on and oppose it, but if they go from A-Z via B, C, D etc, (the fabian strategy), taking lots of steps and gradually introducing changes then the agenda becomes unclear and only those paying attention and ignoring the disinformation from the illuminati controlled media can see the real game plan.

http://www.conspiracytruths.co.uk/georgeorwell1984.html

Sorry for the long post. Off to basketball game.


1,636 posted on 02/02/2019 12:36:09 PM PST by Rusty0604
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Anybody have a spare copy to sell me?
I don’t want to have to mess around finding one, because my RSD makes shopping painful instead of fun.
I will reimburse for all costs!


1,708 posted on 02/02/2019 6:04:32 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: CottonBall
I have the white book on the right. The print is smaller than I like for my old eyes. It will be very interesting to read how many seemingly outrageous predictions have come true. I read this the first time many years before 1984.

It’s interesting that 1984 was the med school graduation year for infanticide doctor/Governor Northam. I wonder if he ever read the book.

1,719 posted on 02/02/2019 7:00:00 PM PST by Freee-dame (Best election ever! 2016)
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