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To: vette6387; jonascord; Secret Agent Man; Pontiac; 867V309
The only reason for this rise in price is, Tesla is no longer going to eat the cost of electricity for customers, and that is related to the greatly increased sales, thanks to the intro of the Model 3. Tesla's already dropping prices to offset the lower fed rebate amount.

EVs are not zero emission -- they merely move the point source from the tailpipe to some smokestack somewhere. Even photovoltaics have to be manufactured and that takes energy of various sorts, including extraction, processing, and transportation.

The infrastructure buildout will have a bootstrapping effect, however, and once photovoltaics make economic sense (preppers already use 'em, but they ain't cheap) for homeowners (and the word is, stata and local gubmint thugs raise property assessments on homes so equipped), home charging will become practical, and DC without conversion back and forth is a more efficient means of charging the vehicles at home.

8 posted on 01/20/2019 1:22:15 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv

“The infrastructure buildout will have a bootstrapping effect, however, and once photovoltaics make economic sense (preppers already use ‘em, but they ain’t cheap) for homeowners (and the word is, stata and local gubmint thugs raise property assessments on homes so equipped), home charging will become practical, and DC without conversion back and forth is a more efficient means of charging the vehicles at home.”

CA is in the process of legislating mandatory solar installations on all new homes. The other thing that’s going on here is all our high schools have their student parking lots covered with solar arrays. None of this makes economic sense, at least not at the present. They are doing it because just like a dog licking his balls, they do it because they can.


12 posted on 01/20/2019 2:35:19 AM PST by vette6387 (WQew)
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To: SunkenCiv

The only reason for this rise in price is, Tesla is no longer going to eat the cost of electricity for customers, and that is related to the greatly increased sales, thanks to the intro of the Model 3. Tesla’s already dropping prices to offset the lower fed rebate amount.

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In the investment world, that’s called a company with pricing power.

On the flip side of the coin, Tesla is pushing ahead to lower the cost of the Model 3. That’s more to do with gaining economies of scale, though.


23 posted on 01/20/2019 4:36:05 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: SunkenCiv
including extraction, processing, and transportation

There's an almost unlimited supply of child slaves in Africa to dig out the cadmium, though.

What's the problem?

31 posted on 01/20/2019 5:08:19 AM PST by Jim Noble (Freedom is the freedom to say that 2+2 = 4)
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