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1 posted on 01/13/2019 6:34:45 AM PST by dennisw
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I think turn it into a dirt bike riding area. Hills, jumps, water holes and mud. After the park opens up dry grass will look beautiful in comparison. You won’t have anyone looking for lost golf balls in the backyard but maybe some spare gas in the garage.


42 posted on 01/13/2019 7:18:36 AM PST by deepestsouth1
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I live near the StoneRidge club in Poway and owned a rental property in an adjacent community that backed up on the 16th fairway of a course that also has closed (both in San Diego County). What the article fails to mention are the exploding costs of operating and maintaining golf courses, particularly for water. In the cases I cite, the clubs fell victim to new tiered water rates (think “progressive” tax rates) and were paying up to four times the amount as previously. Neither club could afford to pay the exorbitant costs. Water rates for homeowners throughout the area have also skyrocketed, thanks to govt. mismanagement, environmentalist whacko activism, and general stupidity. The solution to California’s water problems is desalination of Pacific Ocean water, now economically feasible. One plant has recently opened in San Diego, but it took 15 years to fight through all the bureaucracy and lawsuits. Six more of such plants can provide all the water needs of the our very large county — 90 miles x 70 miles — with beaches, inland valleys, mountains, and deserts.


43 posted on 01/13/2019 7:19:23 AM PST by nickedknack
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Turn it into tenant farms. Good possibility that returns the land to its prior use.


45 posted on 01/13/2019 7:21:29 AM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Ruth Bader Ginsburg doctor is a taxidermist.)
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My strategy has always been to do things that KEEP ME OUT OF THE BARS AND OFF THE GOLF COURSE.

I have some rental property that at least I make some money with my time. I try to have hobbies that at least break even.


49 posted on 01/13/2019 7:24:43 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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My late mother lived in apartments next to golf courses in San Diego County for the last 20 years of her life. She never, to my knowledge played the game. Did suffer some broken windows. But it was nice having a open view and she did enjoy watching them play the game. Golfers, by far, are not the worst sort of strangers have walking near your house. But, there was, a couple of years ago, talk of restricting the water that courses could use. I wonder if the course in question wasn’t killed because of that.


53 posted on 01/13/2019 7:35:59 AM PST by hanamizu
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I once bought a lifetime membership at a video rental store.


54 posted on 01/13/2019 7:36:42 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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Oh. So sad. My, my.

But hey. It might be a good place to stock quail and pheasant …just saying.


55 posted on 01/13/2019 7:37:02 AM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you .)
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Not every culture plays golf. Maas import them at your own risk. Oops...


62 posted on 01/13/2019 7:57:50 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists...Socialists...Fascists & AntiFa...Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Live in close proximity to a well run impeccably maintained
public (city owned) golf course in western CO. The course serves to enhance the area and in the winter months is a great
place to exercise your dog or cross country ski. Although I'm only half-baked on golf ... find it boring & exasperating ...
playing a round of golf on this course (typically only 9 holes) early AM in season keeps me coming back to the game.
63 posted on 01/13/2019 7:58:46 AM PST by BluH2o
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Golf and Republicans seem to me to go together certainly the wealthy and golf match ... drive both out and replace with illegals while making water a sacred commodity and the recipe for vacant courses is baked in.


64 posted on 01/13/2019 8:00:33 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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At my place, the golf course is completely separate from the condos. It has been that way since the beginning, back in 1972. If you are a condo owner, you can join at a discount, but most of the members don’t live here.

We get along with the course OK. There are some complaints about broken windows, but the maintenance guys are willing to help you if it’s a problem. So far, the course has enough members to stay in business, although they have to advertise and compete for members.


65 posted on 01/13/2019 8:00:46 AM PST by proxy_user
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Meanwhile:

https://www.flyingmag.com/marlboro-airport-closing

66 posted on 01/13/2019 8:03:00 AM PST by pabianice
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I’ve seen it twice. Once, a guy lost ownership of a golf course to his now ex-wife, who in bitterness shut the golf course and refused to do any maintenance. Property values plummeted. More recently, a subdivision built around a golf course got in legal trouble because a kid wandered on to the golf course at night and drowned. What were the parents doing? Well...not much, but they sued the golf course. After 60 years, it went bankrupt. Without water, the trees died and now the place is slowly reverting to nature. SLOWLY.

Not a fan of golf courses myself, but most folks buying a house don’t ask themselves what will happen if the golf course goes out of business.


69 posted on 01/13/2019 8:06:18 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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Don’t buy one if you can’t afford it - there are going to be capital calls as long as you own it, and you have to vote yes. The $$ number to join in the first place should give anyone an idea on what its going to be like moving forward.

The Honda Classic used to be held at Heron Bay before it moved to the Bear Trap at PGA National in Palm Beach Gardens, in the very same town. The homeowners stopped voting yes on recommended improvements, it became outdated, they lost the Honda tournament and now the course is a goat track. And some gorgeous, really nice Florida style homes are unmarketable.

Bottom line is don’t vote no on any improvements initiatives, assuming your Board has done a good planning job. Keep your course nice and your home valuable. There’s always a market for nice stuff - a gated community with a trim golf course and tennis and exercise and restaurants and watering holes qualifies as nice stuff to me. You’ll lose far more in value by voting no than you’ll lose in cash voting yes. If you can’t afford it, sell it before you lose your value.

OMT, the new developments in Palm Beach County don’t have golf anymore. You can go at any price level you want, any age that you want. I don’t care or know anything about California, just Florida.


71 posted on 01/13/2019 8:12:13 AM PST by major-pelham
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Interesting reactions.. I see a lot of "if I don't do it then I'll crap on it" type of responses.

Nice, Mr Carlin..

..

BTW, I hunt/shoot, ride ATV's, work with my tractor AND GOLF.. Why does any one have to be exclusive of another?
Why do some feel the need to make a petty wise crack if it's something they themselves don't do?
Sounds like a buncha aged adolescents and leftists. Get a life, chilluns.. Hehehe. d;^)

76 posted on 01/13/2019 8:33:31 AM PST by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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““There are hundreds of other communities in this situation, and they’re trapped and they don’t know what to do,” says Peter Nanula, chief executive of Concert Golf Partners, a golf club owner-operator that owns about 20 private clubs across the U.S. One of his current projects is the rehabilitation of a recently acquired club in Florida that had shut one of its three golf courses and sued residents who had stopped paying membership fees.”

This is happening all over California where people moved into an active retirement community with a golf course and/or tennis courts as a center of activity.

The active golfers/tennis players are dying off as old age takes them. The newer home owners are often not into golf or tennis and into taking local day trips for their lifestyle.

There was a beautiful 9 hole golf course SE of of the city of Sonoma, and they closed it during one of the droughts about a decade ago. There were a few private communities just north of it. They are still there but many of the golfers still alive have moved out.

East of Santa Rosa, there is what used to be a model retirement community, Oakmont. Now, there are battles going 24/7 on between the golfers/tennis players still alive, and the new retirees, who do different things in their active retirement.

Mandatory dues and other monthly/yearly dues can be well over $1,000/$2,000+ per month in many of these places. The newer residents are saying hell no. Maybe,the days of elite liberal golfers getting others to pay for their fun on the courses are over.


79 posted on 01/13/2019 8:48:37 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Liberals/Democrats/GOPe's 2019 Strategy, mantra, plan = 'No Borders, No Walls, No USA at All!')
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I never understood why anyone would want a house on a golf course, having to worry about golf balls hitting the house, or having to worry about getting hit with a golf ball in the backyard.


86 posted on 01/13/2019 9:34:12 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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It all depends upon management.
I live on a 27 hole private country club in Alabama. Our membership declined when the economy went into the tank in 2008/2009. We’ve partially reversed that decline with new and younger membership by offering things that appeal to that group.

For example, our golf pro offers group lessons to kids. He has week long playing lessons and seminars for kids. We had over 100 new members last year and most of them middle aged with middle school high school children. We haven’t fully recovered but things have greatly improved. If you can ‘get the kid’s, you will keep the adults.

I bought this house in 2012. It’s increased about 10% in value. I have had one broken window. No big deal. My window warranty fixed. I do get a few balls in the yard but that only decreases how much I have to spend on new balls.

We do occasionally have water issues. The last drought brought questions as to why we watered our course when folks couldn’t wash their cars. When it was explained that our course owned our own wells and the water wasn’t treated for home use the questions ceased.

The Section Eight Housing issues are the result of the Obama Administration requiring communities to distribute section eight housing across their area. The Trump administration has stopped that.


89 posted on 01/13/2019 9:58:29 AM PST by DugwayDuke ("A man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest")
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If it wasn’t for a Golf Course, Harrison Ford wouldn’t have a place to crash land his Airplane.


93 posted on 01/13/2019 12:12:21 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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A Friends Son In-law bought a Golf Course in Texas with some Business Partners.

Six Months later and Oil Company contacted them wanting to drill on the Property. He and his partners are making a fortune.

The Rigs are set up to slant drill from piece of Land next door so the Golf Course wouldn’t be affected.


94 posted on 01/13/2019 12:16:24 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Democracy, two Wolves and one Sheep deciding what's for Dinner.)
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