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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; reformedliberal; NautiNurse
From what I understand, the Spanish Flu (and by extension the new A-H1N1 variant) kills by provoking an immune system hyper-response, sometimes called the “Cytokine Storm” which severely damages the lungs and causes Acute Respiratory Distress (ARD) resulting in oxygen deprivation to the internal organs.

Here is an over the counter (OTC) formula that inhibits some of the major inflammatory mediators, and is now being suggested as a way to stave off ARD. All four factors must be included.

1a) A prescription ACE-2 inhibitor anti-hypertension drug. -or-
1b) If unavailable, 15,000 IU of Vitamin D* (Note: 15,000 IU is a huge dose of Vitamin D, a fat soluble vitamin. This means excess Vitamin D is stored in the liver, rather being excreted. The half life of Vitamin D is roughly three weeks, and Vitamin D toxicity can cause serious problems)

2) Histamine-1 blocker. Benedryl or the equivalent.

3) Histamine-2 blocker. Tagamet or the equivalent (normally used to block acid reflux.)

4) Ibuprofen. Advil or the equivalent, a prostaglandin blocker.

In addition, it is also recommended to maintain just the MDAR of Vitamin A. Being short of Vitamin A is associated with having an excess of a very powerful inflammatory mediator called TNF-1. But it is easy to take too much Vitamin A, which is toxic. High doses of the provitamin Beta-carotene, which the body converts to Vitamin A, might work as well as straight Vitamin A, and are much less toxic.

Care should be taken to avoid “health foods” that can artificially enhance the immune system, something to be avoided when there is the prospect of ARD.

This was extracted from an earlier thread I’ve lost track of, with some comments on Vitamin D from NautiNurse added, and a flat out guess on Beta Carotene from me...

27 posted on 8/27/2009, 8:51:20 PM by null and void

null and void, do you know the source of this suggested drug melange?

As I said: This was extracted from an earlier thread I’ve lost track of...

Also please notice that this is a proposed treatment for the cytokine storm, not for the underlying flu itself.

I'm not a doctor, I'm not prescribing, I'm merely passing on some information that real doctors think would be helpful, I've incorporated NautiNurse's caveat, and will add yours as well.

Me personally? I've stocked up on Vit D, Beta Carotene, Tagamet, Benedryl and Advil. (Your diet is far better than mine!)

I suggest you do the same. Not because I'm prescribing them, but because IF the research pans out, AND the flu proves to induce cytokine storms/ARD these substances will be in VERY short supply.

You put it very concisely here:

Please, everyone, do not indiscriminately ingest real drugs that have real effects that could, especially in combination, put you at risk that is far greater than the risk of this influenza. At the very least, consult a physician, first.

To which I'd add, please, everyone, have these on hand should the need become manifest.

It's very cheap insurance.

88 posted on 8/28/2009, 12:45:06 PM by null and void

65 posted on 12/27/2018 4:47:03 PM PST by null and void (The Deep State is why even though our economy is booming, the stock market is losing ground.)
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To: null and void
My elevated blood pressure was related not to my age, but to my intermittent but continual use of low doses of ibuprofen. I stopped taking it (it was for chronic neck pain) and my BP is back near my younger self's. Additional sidebars:

69 posted on 12/27/2018 5:22:25 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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