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To: Jonty30; MayflowerMadam; TalBlack
Jonty, (and Mayflower), I will not comment on this particular case.

Keep in mind that nobody knows the disposition of his soul at death, and nobody knows his eternal destiny. Only God can judge, in the particular case, whether the suicider was drunk, or crazy, or clinically depressed or otherwise out of his right mind.

But according to the Bible, we (our bodies) are to be treated reverentially, because our lives do not belong to us but to God. We say this every time we say the Creed: the Holy Spirit is the Lord and Giver of Life.

We do not have right to kill ourselves. If we do so with an adequate degree of self-awareness (i.e. not reacting to a drug, not paranoid schizophrenic, etc.) it is self-murder and as culpable as any other murder.

Galatians 5: 21 - no murderers will enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

Envyings, murders, drunken revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Unless, of course, such a murderer should repent.

The worst thing about self-murder is that you are cutting short your chance to repent. Such persons are in desperate peril of their souls.

We should all pray both for the dead boy and for his family.

61 posted on 12/15/2018 6:56:59 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“nobody knows the disposition of his soul at death, and nobody knows his eternal destiny.”

It’s very sad that there are people who don’t know their eternal destiny. It is possible to know. I know with 100% certainty my destiny.


66 posted on 12/15/2018 7:07:14 AM PST by MayflowerMadam (Great things never come from comfort zones.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; metmom; boatbums; Mom MD; aMorePerfectUnion; daniel1212; Gamecock; Mark17
Keep in mind that nobody knows the disposition of his soul at death, and nobody knows his eternal destiny. Only God can judge, in the particular case, whether the suicider was drunk, or crazy, or clinically depressed or otherwise out of his right mind.

What a cold, unforgiving, uncaring religion Roman Catholicism is that at this family's darkest moment a Roman Catholic priest kicks them in the spiritual gut.

The position espoused by this idiot priest and you is a bold face, contradictory, and false Roman Catholic teaching when compared to the PROMISES OF CHRIST found in the New Testament.

14“As Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of Man be lifted up; 15so that whoever believes will in Him have eternal life.

16“For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life

. 17“For God did not send the Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.

18“He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 3:14-18 NASB

24“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life. John 5:24 NASB

35Jesus said to them, “I am the bread of life; he who comes to Me will not hunger, and he who believes in Me will never thirst. 36“But I said to you that you have seen Me, and yet do not believe.

37“All that the Father gives Me will come to Me, and the one who comes to Me I will certainly not cast out.

38“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. 39“This is the will of Him who sent Me, that of all that He has given Me I lose nothing, but raise it up on the last day.

40“For this is the will of My Father, that everyone who beholds the Son and believes in Him will have eternal life, and I Myself will raise him up on the last day.” John 6:35-40 NASB

27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me; 28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand. 29“My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. 30“I and the Father are one.” John 10:27-30 NASB

13These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.1 John 5:13 NASB

80 posted on 12/15/2018 7:50:20 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, Roman Catholicism has, does, and will change.)
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