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To: daniel1212

First, I will say HRC gleefully supports abortion, Trump doesn’t.

My answer:

The ignorant ask how Christians could vote for and continue to support Trump because he is a sinner. Do they not know that Jesus died for those sins? Do they think that if DJT has asked for forgiveness that that forgiveness was not granted? Have they ever read The Lord’s Prayer? Have they noticed that line in which we ask God for forgiveness of our sins and what immediately follows? And as a kicker, are they freely able to throw the first stone? I know I’m not.


19 posted on 10/14/2018 6:36:59 PM PDT by tiki
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To: tiki
Have they ever read The Lord’s Prayer? Have they noticed that line in which we ask God for forgiveness of our sins and what immediately follows? And as a kicker, are they freely able to throw the first stone? I know I’m not.

It seems about the only verse many liberal know is "Judge not," which is misinterpreted apart from its context to mean not condemning sin (versus hypocritical judging), but which is the very thing they engage in by condemning judging as sin!

22 posted on 10/14/2018 6:48:09 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: tiki

they don’t understand the difference between confession of transgressions with repentance...

versus their own unrepentant ongoing murder, lying, adultery, god hating and rebellion... which is what they ALL ARE... up to and until they repent.

I John 1:9 says “if we confess... he will forgive all”
it does not say, “if we refuse to admit our sins, and persist in them with hatred and rebellion... that’s okay too...”

Various Christian groups, even cultic leaning ones... all admit they are sinners in need of forgiveness, grace and redemption.
These folks trying to hold DJT to what they perceive as our “standards” REFUSE to get it. He admits he was a moral screw up and has made efforts to repent and confess.

Whereas, they ARE practicing, ongoing and unrepentant sinners in rebellion against Holy God. There IS no forgiveness without some form of accounting through, confession, repentance, turning around and keeping after that as a pattern for the rest of ones life... Whether in a confessional chamber or in the prayer closet... ALL who know Christ are driven to our knees over such things. All who don’t get that... do NOT know Christ. at all.

Those who do not repent. ARE NOT christian OR saved. All Christians repent at some level, because they are compelled to do so by the Holy Spirit... if they have no conviction by the Holy Spirit then they are by definition, NONE of his... and in a state of rebellion against the GRACE which leads to repentance.

Self damning and demonically deluded. ONLY God can turn them around. Or a war that wipes them out.


24 posted on 10/14/2018 7:04:16 PM PDT by MIA_eccl1212 (Imho)
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