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To: nikos1121
Secondly, some good studies out there showing that Tylenol is AS EFFECTIVE in controlling chronic pain, (and acute pain in ED) as the opioids.

You may be a physician, but you apparently either don't know (rather unlikely) or choose to ignore the fact that there is a limit to the pain levels that acetaminophen and nsaids are able to control. I have a kid who is a surgeon, and she flat out states that post operative pain for major surgery cannot be controlled by anything other than opioids. And going from personal experience Tylenol and advil didn't touch the pain I felt for the first couple of days post operatively (two operation for separate things) Just to get the records straight I dislike taking opioids, but for some sorts of pain there is no alternative.

15 posted on 10/05/2018 5:23:18 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy)
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To: from occupied ga

These Control freaks on this thread I don’t know whether their church ladies or what crack me up. Telling people they should take aspirins if they get into a bad accident or have an operation. Can you imagine? You can not have people writhing around in severe pain after an accident or an operation you’ll never heal.


21 posted on 10/05/2018 5:34:18 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: from occupied ga

My kid recently had part of his intestines removed. They gave him some sort of pain block during surgery and he needed nothing afterwards. I don’t think he even took any Motrin.

That said, I’ve used Oxycodone when I had kidney stones. It was great stuff that instantly overwhelmed the pain. I couldn’t imagine taking it just for kicks though.

My county is one of the epicenters on the east coast for opiods. We all know people who have died from overdoses. It’s sad. Doing nothing isn’t an option.

Our Sheriff has taken the approach of treating OD’s as victims. If they survive, they get helped, but they also get questioned very heavily about where they got it. The Sheriff then goes after the dealers...hard.

Is it working? I don’t know, but it’s a good alternative to the old way.


28 posted on 10/05/2018 6:01:53 AM PDT by cyclotic ( Democrats must be politically eviscerated, disemboweled and demolished.)
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To: from occupied ga

I think I’ve made it clear, that I’m talking about chronic pain and the use of opioids. Short term pain issues, from surgery, kidney stones, labor etc. etc. need pain meds that are effective. People don’t get addicted to short term pain use when they’re in pain.


33 posted on 10/05/2018 6:07:34 AM PDT by nikos1121
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