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To: Defiant
It is surprising that you are not understanding what that passage means. I am a lawyer, but it should be clear even to a non-lawyer.

I understand that legalese can be interpreted many different ways, if vague enough, and depends often times on the whim of "controlling legal authority" (judge).

This particular set of EO's and amendments to the military code of justice tell a story and signal intent. The only impediment to follow through is the Constitution (maybe) and it just may come down to the Supreme Court ruling. We already know how Kavanaugh will rule. He told us.

Let's make sure we get him confirmed, eh? And then get on to gettin' on.

Bagster the non-lawyer.

Bagster


809 posted on 09/15/2018 6:48:38 PM PDT by bagster ("Even bad men love their mamas".)
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To: bagster

Bagster, the non-lawyers’ non-lawyer.

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862 posted on 09/15/2018 8:41:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)
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To: bagster

You still misunderstand. The passage does not “tell a story and signal intent” that the DOJ will be involved in military tribunals, which is what everyone keeps claiming. Kavanaugh testified very clearly that American citizens can be tried by military tribunal as enemy combatants. I have never disputed that, I wrote about it here quite often in the early part of the war on terror. I believed very strongly that al qaeda people should have no rights except to a military tribunal, followed by a right proper hanging.

Kavanaugh and Linda discussed the 1942 Quirin case and the 2004 Hamdi case which stood for that principle. There was no discussion with Kavanaugh about having civilian prosecutors involved in military tribunals. The one document that everyone keeps posting, and which you are referring to, says that military prosecutors should use the guidelines that apply to civilian prosecutors, to the extent that military justice allows. That does not mean that DOJ lawyers and military lawyers work together in tribunals, just that military lawyers should use guidelines developed over centuries of work by civilian prosecutors.

For some reason, everyone jumped on the notion that Huber and the military will be prosecuting together, and that is not what is going on. Cabal members who are enemy combatants can be tried by tribunal. Alternatively, they can be tried for crimes by the US DOJ. The choice of which to utilize will be the President’s.

I’m tiring of explaining this minor point, for which I was battered by several who claimed Kavanaugh said something I was disputing. (He did not). If people still want to claim that DOJ prosecutors will hold military tribunals, go ahead and continue to be wrong. I won’t waste further time on it.


877 posted on 09/15/2018 9:20:23 PM PDT by Defiant (I may be deplorable, but I'm not getting in that basket.)
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