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To: little jeremiah

I don’t know if Obama pardoned himself, but I thought it would make sense because Trump keeps saying he could pardon himself (and the MSM goes NUTS). Trump is having fun with that one and it makes me think he’s trolling the left/MSM so that when Obama’s self pardons were revealed, they would have egg on their faces.

I have wondered about the possibilities - I asked someone jokingly if Obama hid the pardon(s) under the Oval Office carpet or something. Then I recalled that there was scuttling over Obama’s Presidential library. When the Trump Administration requested access to documents, Obama’s staff said, “No” and said those documents would not be available as they were impounded somehow for use in Obama’s Presidential library! Ha! Yeah...you can’t have evidence that incriminates him - he wants it for his library.

So the scuttling was supposedly related to Obama claiming he had jury duty when some think it was re his library papers (confiscation of same). So I’m wondering if that was the plan. File the pardons in his theoretically public library and access them when needed? Doesn’t seem legal, but maybe it would throw something into the hopper for the dems to scream about. “UNFAIR! HIS PARDONS WERE A MATTER OF PUBLIC RECORD!!!! AIIIEEE!!!!”

I don’t know - more to wonder about. If true, I was thinking they shot themselves in the foot again. Without pardons, they would probably be primary bound for federal court, where the MSM and other supporters have alot of attention and the talking heads could direct the public more thoroughly. But with pardons, only military, state, and international law apply. So they may have bumped federal trials off the itinerary and replaced them with military tribunals, state and international courts.

The same self-pardon rumor sources say that NY and CA pardoned them for all state crimes. So what’s theoretically still in play would be international crimes (and courts), some state courts and.....military tribunals. It would be like them to shoot themselves in the foot - or like the white hats to use black hat weapons against black hats!


1,406 posted on 08/31/2018 3:25:19 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: ransomnote

I read earlier, I think in Neon Revolt that it is known that the Trump DoJ went in and TOOK those documents from the ob@m@ residential library offices by force. So what if he pardoned himself and now can’t produce any proof of it?


1,453 posted on 08/31/2018 5:01:01 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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The same self-pardon rumor sources say that NY and CA pardoned them for all state crimes. So what’s theoretically still in play would be international crimes (and courts), some state courts and.....military tribunals. It would be like them to shoot themselves in the foot - or like the white hats to use black hat weapons against black hats!


THere are still federal crimes as well as international crimes.


1,489 posted on 08/31/2018 5:40:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah (When we do not punish evildoers we are ripping the foundations of justice from future generations)
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