[mountn man]

But now we need them more than ever since even 4 door sedans have 250+ HP and ride so well that even an idiot feels safe doing 100+ mph.

2018 Cadillac XTS, comes with 304 hp standard.

The XTS V series is 410

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The BMW 7 series starts out at 320 hp and goes up to 601 in the Alpina

[Bryanw92]

>>2018 Cadillac XTS, comes with 304 hp standard.

Those are high-end sports sedans. I’m talking about Altimas, Sonatas, Camrys, Fusions, etc. Cars for the masses.

Even in the “Muscle Car Era”, for every Charger with a 426 or 440, there were a hundred Chargers with a 318.

[21twelve]

I was driving behind a Ferrari on the way back from church. A station wagon Ferrari! (Well - a hatchback I suppose.) The roof was all glass. It looked pretty sharp.

I had to look on the web. Top speed of 208 MPH, $300,000.