To: A Navy Vet
You have self-defined that there is no answer to your questions. If that makes you happy, then fine.
I happen to be an engineer. For me, something is 'real' if it is subject to objective observation, which includes some means of measurement/differentiation from other observed phenomena. There is a dimension called "time" in Einstein's equations, and it forms the basis for accurate predictions of observable phenonmena. If that is not sufficient to establish that there is a dimension called time then nothing ever will be (to you).
I happen to be a Christian so my answer for where the original singularity came from is, "God said, 'Let there be light.' And there was light." The question for me is whether God created a universe which is 'honest' in that there are governing 'rules' which we (created in His image) can work to understand. I believe that He did. That's a faith statement, and I don't need to prove it - since it is unprovable. That's that makes it a 'faith' statement.
Most of all, I reject your premise that mathematics as part of an explanation can be rejected. That is, to use my earlier analogy, like someone blind refusing to accept the existence of light, then declaring that anyone who says they can 'see' something is (to use your word) "hokum."
To me, you are like the man who plugs his fingers in his ears and shouts so that he cannot hear an explanation. It makes the explanation impossible to communication, but it does not make the explanation wrong.
But, in a free society, you have the right to be wrong (as those in power would define right and wrong). Be grateful you don't live in Iran.
78 posted on
08/16/2018 1:55:29 PM PDT by
Phlyer
To: Phlyer
I look at history that has proved many theorems wrong, including mathematical equations. I am open to anything that can show unequivocal empirical evidence to be fact. As an engineer and I as a layman we both know that steel is comprised of iron and other elements depending on the composition of the steel desired. That is empirically proven. Some things are NOT so proven and why they are called theories.
Not being a Christian, my mind questions your "let their be light" as the singularity. However, as a somewhat Deist, that could be the case. I am not closed minded as you imply, I'm skeptical of theories until proven beyond a doubt. Fair?
81 posted on
08/17/2018 8:31:37 AM PDT by
A Navy Vet
(I'm not Islamophobic - I'm Islamonauseous. Plus LGBTQxyz nauseous.)
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