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How a Pit Bull Can Change the World: The Incredible Legacy of Ray the Vicktory Dog
huffingtonpost.com ^ | May 22, 2016 | Arin Greenwood

Posted on 08/09/2018 2:44:03 PM PDT by kanawa

"Ray was one of the former Michael Vick dogs — a Vicktory dog, as this troupe is known.

And like so many of the dogs rescued out of the horrific Bad Newz Kennels in 2007, Ray went from the worst kind of cruelty to the sort of bliss only known to spoiled dogs who get to sleep in their indulgent humans’ beds.

Ray died last weekend, after surgery to have his spleen removed."...

(Excerpt) Read more at huffingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: chet99; gooddogs; pitbull; rdo; vicktorydog
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To: metmom
Just like you are free to stay off Norski’s threads.

That's what we have done, given ourselves that option
and leaving you the option of enjoying a 'pitbull' hating thread
without at least my, and I hope others, interference.
I can control myself, can you?

Hate 'pitbulls' go to a Norski thread.

Love good 'pitbulls' and Responsible Dog Ownership stay here.

We won't annoy you and you won't annoy us.

Isn't Freedom and having a choice grand?

61 posted on 08/09/2018 4:33:27 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
I don’t want to hear how many sweet pit bulls there are after another innocent person is horribly maimed or killed by one.

You have a choice.
Go to a Norski thread and rail against 'pitbulls;' to your hearts discontent.
I, for one, pledge not to invade your hate zone.

That will not be what you find on these threads.
If you don't want to 'hear' or see positive stories about 'pitbulls' presented
or partake in civil discussions on preventing dog attacks without killing millions of innocent dogs,
you'll likely not enjoy these threads.

62 posted on 08/09/2018 4:46:30 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: metmom

The rainbow collar thing looks like the specialized collars I’ve seen on service dogs in my capacity as a case manager-I forget the name of it-but the photo in post #11 is showing just an ordinary harness for a big dog-you can buy one at any ranch store, Petsmart of from Chewy online...

I get that you don’t like large guarding breed dogs, but a harness on a big dog does not a monster make-there are people like me who do not like small dogd-especially yappy little frou frou purse dogs-if we all liked the same kind of dog, AKC and all the other purebred registries would cease to exist-from a lack of business...


63 posted on 08/09/2018 4:48:12 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5

dogs-duh...


64 posted on 08/09/2018 4:49:05 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: kanawa; All
You mean that there segregated threads on FR now? You've got to be kidding. Didn't know FR had its own snowflakes that needed their own safespace.

Sorry, I didn't get the memo. You post anything that tries to claim pitbulls are misunderstooding, loving animals, I for one, will point out the reality that they are killers, need to be banned and put down. No exception, no quarter. I love dogs grew up with them but we had enough common sense to never have a pitbull. Happy to say that I have a 9mm that will stop one if I or my family are threatened and will go to sleep knowing that there is one less pitbull to maim or kill someone.

And, yes, have a nice day. Geesh, FR safespaces! What next?

65 posted on 08/09/2018 4:58:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!y)
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To: metmom

No try typical freeper nuttiness


66 posted on 08/09/2018 5:02:45 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hanged not hung.)
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To: kanawa

These pit bull/dog threads are like Groundhog Day. Same stuff over and over and over. They should be banned.

Everyone of them is like warping into the DU.

We’ve worked with rescued Pittys and for sharing that knowledge we get every invective short of death threats by so called conservatives.

This is one of the reasons I no longer suggest to other conservatives that they become acquainted with Free Republic. Pathetic and embarrassing.


67 posted on 08/09/2018 5:07:59 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Texan5
I get that you don’t like large guarding breed dogs,

You get nothing.

You don't know what I like or don't like.

You are just making assumptions.

68 posted on 08/09/2018 5:08:33 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Reno89519
Didn't know FR had its own snowflakes that needed their own safespace.

Apparently.

69 posted on 08/09/2018 5:09:49 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Bellflower
Reputable breeders will breed to enhance the good qualities of 'pitbulls'

Stability, Temperament and Confirmation

They will do their due diligence in screening prospective buyers
and ensure the buyers have done their own due diligence in educating themselves about the responsibilities of owning a 'pitbull',
and provide any additional info to the buyer if needed.
Taking on the responsibility of ownership of any dog should never be done on a whim and a responsible breeder will be alert to that possibility.

They will have buyers sign contracts that will allow the breeder,
if there is any hint of irresponsible ownership, to repossess the dog.
The breeder has the responsibility to investigate the buyer
and the buyer has the responsibility to investigate the breeder.

Dogs are dogs and are all potentially dangerous.
The danger is enhanced if the owners do not follow the Principles of Responsible Dog Ownership...
Contain, Control, Maintain, Train and Socialize....and mitigated if they do.

70 posted on 08/09/2018 5:12:36 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: metmom

Oh, that’s rich, lol!


71 posted on 08/09/2018 5:15:50 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: kanawa

I hear about the sweet pit bulls in every story of a lethal attack in the news...not only on freepr.

Typical response...” your hate zone”...maybe you should work for Facebook or Google to monitor anyone who disagrees with you or presents facts about the breed.

Interesting there are never counter fact based arguments from pitbull apologists when we mention genetics and breeding that are more lethal than other “ dog bites”.
I can respond to any thread with counter arguments, facts and points for discussion.

The usual response is not a logical discussion about the specific issues with pit bulls but a blanket response “ dogs should be trained.”

Gangs in the hood don’t “ not train or socialize” Labradors to get the effect they can with pit bulls. Theres a reason they select the pitbull breed. Case closed.

I love dogs. I don’t “ Hate “ pittbulls. I think it is a tragedy how they have been bred. And, yes I think the breed is dangerous more than other dogs, who also can attack.


72 posted on 08/09/2018 5:27:52 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (WINNING! !!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Yeah I know, we’ve gone through at least a dozen incarnations of Norski.
I’d sooner see ourselves deal with it without needing Jim to put his foot down.

Maybe as Gandalf would say, it’s ‘only a fool’s hope’
but I’m going to give this two thread/track solution a try.
I’m willing to let them wallow in their hate space
and concentrate on doing something positive with ours.
We’ll see if they are able to extend the same courtesy to us.


73 posted on 08/09/2018 5:29:36 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie
Case closed

Then I guess there is nothing left to say.
Have a Nice Evening

74 posted on 08/09/2018 5:31:55 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: kanawa

Ugh! Another disgusting Norski-ite.


75 posted on 08/09/2018 5:34:51 PM PDT by Fairhairedboy (Trumpist!)
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To: All
Ray the Vicktory dog inspires even after his death


76 posted on 08/09/2018 5:37:16 PM PDT by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: metmom

Your posts don’t reflect a liking for large dogs-or any dogs for that matter-it is irrelevant in any case-but there is no need to be rude...


77 posted on 08/09/2018 5:41:44 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: BBell

Do you shit in the punch bowl at parties too?

You seem like a barrel of laughs.


78 posted on 08/09/2018 5:54:31 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle ( The Great Wall of Trump ---- 100% sealing of the border. Coming soon.)
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To: CaptainK

The problem with this is “What is a pit bull?” So many breeds look like pit bulls to many people. I had to change insurance companies because I had 2 pit bulls, one “real big”. I have never had a pit, don’t want one. I had a black mouthed cur and a great dane. Several good breeds get caught up in this.


79 posted on 08/09/2018 6:02:13 PM PDT by Himyar (Comes A Stillness)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

I have also seen the stories about a lovable pit suddenly mauling a familiar person. They always say it was so sweet, but I have yet to read about someone claiming the dog was well trained. Or any story where a verifiably well trained pit attacked the owner or anyone or other dog. The level of training just doesn’t seem to come up in dog attack stories, which is a shame. I would like to know.

Supposedly only 5% of dog owners bother to train their animal, even the bare minimum. I would suspect that pits get even less training considering what kind of uses many are horribly put to.

Freegards


80 posted on 08/09/2018 6:05:35 PM PDT by Ransomed
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