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To: Jack Black

Natural born stipulation for president is of the highest order. It prevents a person from becoming president who could have dual loyalties. BOTH parents should be citizens. Here’s the link I used to educate myself.

http://www.birthers.org/USC/Vattel.html

No way in hell was Obama ever remotely eligible to be president of the United States, court rulings notwithstanding. The whole “hullabaloo” surrounding McCain’s eligibility back in 2008 was merely the deep state greasing the skids for Obama.


203 posted on 07/23/2018 3:01:57 PM PDT by upsdriver
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To: upsdriver
No way in hell was Obama ever remotely eligible to be president of the United States, court rulings notwithstanding.

Mostly, as I recall, the court rulings were all of the type: "you don't have standing / we're not going to hear that suit", and the merits of the arguments were never made.

I'm not sure what the term is for what Obama and his team did, but it was pretty clever. Many people were saying that Obama did not qualify based on some variation of the terms I've described as the High Bar, Obama responded by ridiculing the most unlikely case "I wasn't born in Kenya". "my opponents, who say I was born in Kenya" "well these ridiculous, what do they call them -- birthers, insist I was born in Kenya, ..."It was pretty brilliant, when majority opinion agreed that he was born in Hawaii then the "birther" issue was closed, even though the main points had never been addressed.

Given that Obama got away with it I think anyone else who is in a similar situation will get away with it too.

And, as you can hopefully tell I educated myself on this topic at the time of the original issues, but always appreciate a good link (and in fact one of the most compelling argument I've seen made for the High Bar interpretation I read rather recently following a discussion on this, there is always more to learn.

FReegards, -JB

204 posted on 07/23/2018 3:12:35 PM PDT by Jack Black
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